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| Quote: SmokeyTA "I can only ask again, are you aware of the term 'transference''"
I am aware of the term d1ckh3ad mentioned a lot to your posts. Just saying like.
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| Quote: loiner81 "When was the last time we had something like this though, with videos all over the web and lynch mobs out for blood?
Whether Child reported it or not this was going to happen.'"
Wigan v Leeds in the Challenge Cup Final 2011.
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| Quote: Gotcha "I am aware of the term d1ckh3ad mentioned a lot to your posts. Just saying like.'"
People mention things to my posts. W13rd.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "rlThey appear to be one and the samerl as the Compliance Manager chairs the Disciplinary Committee.
Both League Express and League Weekly this week stated that the complaint would have had to have come from James Child.'"
Yes I imagine some individuals will be involved in both. But how many incidents have you heard of referred to the Compliance Department???
Papers aren't always correct you know. Say for arguments sake Child hasn't reported it, but several dozen people complain to the RFL about it with the incident on video being banded about......do you think they'd ignore it and say sorry can't do anything as the ref didn't hear it?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Wigan v Leeds in the Challenge Cup Final 2011.'"
To be fair that was as plain as day, how many people actually saw this Hardaker thing at the actual time?
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| This threadhttps://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/thebloodbath/handbags.jpg" >rl
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Wigan v Leeds in the Challenge Cup Final 2011.'"
And fully justified too. There was absolutely no doubt over what happened on that occasion.
You can't really argue with this, can you?
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Yes I imagine some individuals will be involved in both. But how many incidents have you heard of referred to the Compliance Department???'"
According to rlthis documentrl it is standard practice, when incidents have not been acted upon during the match or picked up on by officials during the match or via TV footage by the match review panel. The Compliance team will refer the incident on to the tribunal if appropriate. So far as I can gather from reading the operational rules and the guidance on homophobic language, the Compliance team simply oversees the whole disciplinary process, which makes sense given its name. Anyone can report homophobic (or racist/sexist/etc) language to the Compliance team although there are procedures open to follow as an alternative for fans (reporting to the stewards, direct to the club, etc). Upon receiving a report an investigation will be undertaken and an appropriate course of action taken, which may or may not include sanctions. If the guilty party is a player and that course of action is to take the case to the disciplinary panel then if they are found guilty they can receive a Grade E to F ban (5 to 8 matches). There is a specific sanction band for homophobic/racist/sexist/etc language and behaviour.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "when incidents have not been acted upon during the match or picked up on by officials during the match or via TV footage by the match review panel.
Anyone can report homophobic (or racist/sexist/etc) language to the Compliance team'"
Seems clear it didn't have to be Child who reported it
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| Quote: loiner81 "And fully justified too. There was absolutely no doubt over what happened on that occasion.
You can't really argue with this, can you?
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You asked when it was and I told you.
Wasn't this your question
"When was the last time we had something like this though, with videos all over the web and lynch mobs out for blood?"
He rightly got fined by the club and the RFL.
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| Smokey is your full time occupation engaging in quote off's on here? because every single f*cking thread I see you in you're dissecting people posts practically word by word.
I wouldn't be suprised if you had a lawyer go over the wording of your posts before hitting submit, just to make sure there's no post or argument you can't twist and wriggle your way out of, with enough quotes and posts of course.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "You asked when it was and I told you.
Wasn't this your question
"When was the last time we had something like this though, with videos all over the web and lynch mobs out for blood?"
He rightly got fined by the club and the RFL.'"
Not quite the same though is it, the above was a cut & dried case of a player acting like a total ****with the photo leaving no one in doubt whatsoever. Unlike that 10 second video that's currently doing the rounds.
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| Quote: loiner81 "Not quite the same though is it, the above was a cut & dried case of a player acting like a total ****with the photo leaving no one in doubt whatsoever. Unlike that 10 second video that's currently doing the rounds.'"
Let the powers that be sort it out. That's their job isn't it?
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Seems clear it didn't have to be Child who reported it'"
It didn't, no. It could have been another player.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA " Faggot isnt a swear word. It is a homophobic slur.
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Interestingly, not according to the Urban Dictionary. rlhttps://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term
Quote: SmokeyTA "In these times not really used if somebody is really a homosexual mostly used instead of calling somebody stupid or a loser.'"
Not to mention the earlier reference I provided stating the term was acceptable if used by homosexual men. Of course, many traditional dictionaries say it is an offensive term though, interestingly, not a homophobic term.
So I've provided a plethora of authorities which say the word may or may not be offensive but you've provided none that say it's homophobic apart from it is because you say it is.
That's another thing about language, it can and often does change and words that were not originally offensive can become so and words that were offensive can become less so. The younger generation do use the term faggot in a non offensive way as described in the Urban Dictionary. Think about the word Bitch. Many people now refer to their bitches including women talking about their girlfriends. People have taken ownership of a previously offensive word and taken the offence out of it, like that gay community has done by their own use of the word "fag" (fag hag etc).
Think about calling someone or something crazy. Fairly inoffensive but what about the connotations and stigma with the mentally ill? What about calling someone or a situation lame? Would that cause outrage? What about the negative connotations with disability from which that word originates?
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