Not sure how long Delaney was on for but he managed 22 tackles with only 1 miss and 6 carries for 58m (9.67 avg)

Achurch did 33 tackles with 3 missed and also managed 58m but from 11 carries (5.27 avg, comfortably the lowest avg of all our forwards last night)

Has Falloon played at loose forward? Has he defended in that position? That would have meant moving JJB out of that defensive position and to the 2nd row.

However you bring Falloon on, it disrupts the team to some degree other than a straight swap for Burrow.

Achurch frustrates me. He gives you glimpses of what he can do, the half break and offload to Keinhorst for instance, but that's all you get, a glimpse.

I can see why we signed him, he's big, fast and got an offload on him, but I can also see why he's not got another contract.

Hopefully when Ferres and Ward are fit then Delaney can get an extended break to help ease any issues on his knackered body.

Yes I had no problem with it last night. Happened similar last year away to Cas although Burrow did get on for the last 5/6 mins when we made it a three score lead, Aiton was having that good a game he shouldn't have been taken off.

Looking at the stats none of the forwards did any silly Peacock-style huge numbers. In fact the tackles/carries from the forwards were very well shared out.

Frankly, the twice he ran in the opposite direction rather than tackle Pritchard should signal the end of his time in a Leeds shirt. I'd rather have a young kid on the field who is prepared to throw his body on the line rather than a shirker who runs away from getting involved.

Hopefully Moon will be back before long and Keinhorst can shift into the second row.

When Buderus was at Leeds, he used to start games at hooker then when Burrow came on shift to a loose-forward role defending in the middle unit. You could have done the same with Falloon last night, when Mullally was blowing out of his backside. Defending as a prop, "normal" hooker or loose-forward has very little difference, you're in the middle unit of the field.

I get the feeling either McDermott doesn't rate Falloon, or he's making a point to GH who we all know will have had final say on his signing. Given some of his cryptic comments in the media, are relationships off the field starting to fray at the seams?

I don't know if he has played LF, but he can certainly defend as a forward in the middle channel thus giving a.n.other a break. OR ...get this: if not trusted then don't bluddy select him (or any other) if you're not going to play him. Select somebody you will put on the field.

As Andy Gilder says, maybe McDermott is playing political games. Either way it is foolhardly and dangerous when the team is desperate for points and confidence.

Difference was Buderus was a great defender , what i have seen of Falloon he is not

I am inclined to agree with you regarding Delaney and what he offers at the moment in terms of reliability / fitness . but I would still argue he offers way more in terms of desire and guts than Achurch ever will . Both players are probably not giving real value , but for vastly differing reasons .

No it isn't a 17 man game. It is a 13 aside game with a subs bench of 4 substitutes should you require them. They have reduced the number of interchanges thank goodness and I would favour a further reduction. The way the game has gone where you have muscle bound forwards only capable of 15 minute stints is one of the reasons for the decline in our game.

This fallacy that you have to use all your subs in a pre match planned manner no matter how the game pans out is what is barmy ! Falloon was cover for the hooker position and as Burrow was having a good game and is an 80 minute player there was no need to use him certainly not in place of a big forward.

There may be a difference in quality between Buderus and Falloon
Former Aus captain and current Blues captain looking for a new challenge vs. player looking to get career back on track...
Buderus was a brilliant defender, not just in the amount of work but the ability to read play, something I havnt seen from Falloon
If Burrow is playing well then put him on Keinhorsts side in defence and put Baldwinson on the bench

If the choice is between leaving a clearly fatigued player on when the opposition are moving the ball around chasing the game or getting a fresh set of legs on even if it's just to add some line speed and mobility in defence, I know which one I'd be taking.

Yeah, heaven forbid the monotonous bitching about the coach should suffer some sort of interruption...

The restriction on subs is obviously deliberate - and part and parcel of what forges this team into a lean, mean big game team. You know - the type of team that regularly serves up the doubters a giant slab of humble pie.

If we put Baldwinson on the bench instead of Falloon last night and Burrow or Lilley played poorly or got injured then what do we do?

Are you not too old for blinkered hero worship?

So no doubt you would find praise for McDermott if he found reason to use none of his substitutes? Bizarre. By not utilising all the players at your disposal - as has been said if only to give a brief respite to a.n.other - you are handicapping yourself against the oppositon.