[sizeAt no stage whatsoever does Buderus put his hands or arms between the players legs[/size

Is that not what you said?

I've no more idea than you what went through his mind so I wouldn't make such a definitive statement as to what he did and didn't mean to do.

I don't, however, believe that a player tackles someone, lifts them, and turns them in some unthinking, involuntary motion.

[sizeYou happy to see players lift and turn other players with hands between their legs?[/size

Is that not whay you said?

Did Buderus have his hands between the players legs in lifting and turning him?

And good for you.

I heard that G1 said that gotcha said Buderus didn't put his hands between his legs, but I also heard gotcha said G1 say that he did put his hands between his legs.

Is a question I asked you, yes.

You said

I asked you to watch it again, and you said

[sizeWhat the hell you are watching god only knows. But does not surprise me bearing in mind the player in question.

Buderus has both arms wrapped around the player at all times. At no stage does his arms or hands go between the players legs.[/size

You couldn't have been more definitive. Yet now you're knitting fog by saying I alleged the hands were between the legs at a certain stage and not another. I can understand why you're knitting fog but do you or do you not still stand by YOUR statement that


[sizeBuderus has both arms wrapped around the player at all times. At no stage does his arms or hands go between the players legs[/size

Jesus do you really need to be so childish, and I need to make it clearer for you.

The tackle made by Buderus, at ALL times he had the player wrapped up with both this arms round the player. AFTER hitting the ground and releasing the player his hand in pulling back goes between Prescotts legs. I repeat AFTER hitting the ground and RELEASING.

I am happy enough to stand by those comments, and you will find them absolutely correct.

NOW, are you saying that if a players hands goes between a players legs on the floor in the tackle, that he should be banned?

Do you 2 want to go outside and continue this????

Gotcha - stop biting.

I suspect G1 knows exactly the point you are making and has done for some time, but in typical "look at me, c*ck of the walk" fashion is now piling on the pedantry simply because it's you.

Do us all a favour and bring the matter to a close.

Ta.

Your wish is my command Sir.

Personally I think that the ban should stand, as that type of tackle is as dangerous as it gets. I do think that it is harsh to have been given during the play-offs after so many have gone unpunished through the regular season. The fact that over the season this offense being given a ban is an exception rather than a rule I would say teh RFL have to take a long look at themselves.

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... 6532294.jp Interesting to see who was on the panel. Also Justin Morgan agrees with the majority on here...

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... 6532294.jp Interesting to see who was on the panel. Also Justin Morgan agrees with the majority on here...

Clearly Colin has taken as many hits to the head as his rambling, stat obsessed offspring.

Not read the thread, just wanted to note that a ban is ridiculous. I understand that spear tackles are dangerous and need to be prevented....but this was more a case of the tackler at the top end (leuluai?) letting go as Buderus tackles around the waist, resulting in the tackled landing on his shoulders (not neck or head).

Disappointing that those on the panel don't see the difference in accidental and deliberate....especially from a player who is not known for dirty play.