We should have let Parcel go in order to get Merrin. Garbutt is exactly the kind of prop we need. A middle unit of Ava, Garbutt and Merrin, would be as good as any in the league.

Agree with that

I didnt say it was all Agars fault, thought the ' dumb penaltys and decisions, just terrible in every area' and the players attitudes comments int the very post you quoted made it pretty clear i wasnt putting all the blame on Agar, the players were a disgrace last night bar 1 or 2, but his team selection was wrong, no two ways about it. My feelings on Myler are no secret, Awful player.

Myler is truly horrendous. The quicker he's replaced the better

Garbutt 192m, more than both of your starting props combined. Outstanding decision to let him go

Yep. Utterly ridiculous

I’m going to stick up for Myler here. I’m not saying he wasn’t awful, he was. But he looked totally lacking in confidence. He’s had some good games for us, he’s better than the player that turned out last night.

With a proper 9 starting (Lunt), hopefully the forwards will be able to set more of a platform for the halves and back line. The kicks on the last should also improve.

Or you could argue he's only turned up when the rest of the team has played well and maybe he should be dropped? Any halfback can look good when all's well - quality ones drag their side up.

I wonder when Furner left if they considered asking Tony Smith to step in if only to end of season ?

Garbutts been one of the best props in superleague since he got here, no suprise he's doing great for KR, always plenty of hitups and good meters per carry, he was class last night. I like Ava but none of our props seem to take many hit ups, I dont know if its by design or because we'v got headless chickens in our spine, or if they arnt putting there hand up, but we rarly have more than one prop in double figures in hit ups. For me, both starting props should be well into double figures more often than not.

Ok put another way, name a position where leeds are stronger than KR? Best I can come up with is 13, though his discipline was a real let down last night.

For me the game was lost through poor mental preparation and discipline in the first 20 minutes.

We sorted it out towards the end of the first half, but lapsed again in the second. HKR wanted it more than us and TS managed to get their players to channel this in a positive direction, whereas Leeds' indiscipline and panic play stopped us building any pressure.

For these reasons I don't think there's much point in blaming individuals. That said I'm worried about Newman - he hasn't shown us much in attack since Watkins left and is being exposed in defence. Sure he's going to make mistakes as a kid but in this pressure relegation battle I hope his confidence isn't permanently damaged because we have no cover for this position.