Watched it back, thought Ava, Peteru, Oledski went pretty well in the pack, really like Avas defence, he was known as a good defender in the NRL and its clear to see why imo.

Newman and Handley also very good with no decent ball.

In honesty though, even if the other 15 players play well, your going to struggle to win a game when you'v got 2 players as bad as Myler and Watkins were, especially when theyr your experienced half and your captain. They were beyond shocking, thats all im going to say on Watkins because we all know the probable reasons. Myler though, its got to be one of the worst halfback performances iv ever seen, absolute garbage, 6 missed tackles to pad his already league leading stats, horrendous kicking game which gave them 7 tackle sets time and again, no structure, control, intelligence whatsoever...Complete and utter disgrace, He'd be the first one out the door for me. Our pack gets its share of criticism and the saying goes a half cant play behind a beaten pack, but it works both ways. A pack can look a lot better if theyr working off a couple of repeat attacking sets rather than defending multiple 7 tackle sets, the difference there is staggering, id be suprised if we'r not bottom of the league in repeat sets gained, good halfs get you them, Myler does the opposite.

Yeah well said. Hes looked ok at times myler but he looks shot to pieces now. If we are to avoid relegation he needs to step up his game big time or replace him this season.

Not blinkered at all Watkins squared him up and tackled him Eden clearly kicks his legs out and lands fine no pile driver no dump tackle at all.

You can ignore defence if it's JJB we'discussing

Singleton works hard in defence, but he doesn't hit very hard (unless it's a shoulder charge, and he never wins a collusion with or without the ball. He's not progressed since making his debut, and he seems to be losing power and physicality instead of adding it. I was always willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because I assumed he would develop and grow into a big, athletic prop, but he looks like he's never been in a weight room!

Agreed. Sky commentary also agreed

I agree with a lot of that.

Ava looks like a good un, he very rarely (if at all ) misses a tackle and runs in very strong, our pack is not as big as an issue as our halves.

I really would give McLelland some proper game tomr from now on

If it had been Eden on Watkins and no action had been taken, you Whinos fans would have been apoplectic, judging by you're reaction when a perfectly good try was scored against you.

Eden was prob the correct call. Hips only just above the horizontal. Hopefully Watkins cops a 1 match ban to force us to drop him for magic. Anyone else plays like that and they would be dropped. Can't belive he's still captain

2 pretty similar tackles in the toronto game today only resulted in penalties

Yep. I thought it was a penalty but a sin binning was harsh.

It’s as fine a line between a good solid tackle and a spear tackle as you’re going to see and we’ve seen other spear tackles this season given as penalties without a sinbinning.

Seemed harsh to me. Penalty would suffice.

In the Toronto match today there was a worse tip tackle which resulted in a penalty but no card. Referees remain inconsistent as ever.

Yep I saw that. Unfortunately Singleton wants to be an enforcer but doesn’t have the balls for it.