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| Quote: batesylufc "are you allowed to change the named squad? ive also heard a few rumours that mcguire will play but obviously he is not named in the squad.'"
I believe you are but only if it is deemed to be an improvement to the team... For example we can't name the first team for a game, get people through the gates and then put out the u18's instead. Might be wrong on that tho....
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I can't see Keinhorst getting picked unless one of the other backs isn't fit. A centre on the bench with just 3 sub appearances would be a massive gamble. As it is, with Delaney and Ward in the squad and the ability of others to switch around, I just don't see the need for a threequarter on the bench.
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I wouldn't start with Ward. Lunt should be at hooker & bring on Stevie to run at the tired Warrington pack later in the game.
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So is Webb done at Leeds now?
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "I can't see Keinhorst getting picked unless one of the other backs isn't fit. A centre on the bench with just 3 sub appearances would be a massive gamble. As it is, with Delaney and Ward in the squad and the ability of others to switch around, I just don't see the need for a threequarter on the bench.'"
Indeed.....then start Keinhorst at LC and put Ablett on the bench. The issue then does not exist, does it ? 
Ablett instead becomes the extra useful bench forward ....who is also the best stand-in centre the club has.
Either way the room for Keinhorst in the starting 17 is still valid IMO ( IF McGuire is not fit ) |
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| Quote: nantwichexile "Indeed.....then start Keinhorst at LC and put Ablett on the bench. The issue then does not exist, does it ? ![]()
Do even you really, honestly believe that Keinhorst, at this stage of his career, is a better centre than Ablett?
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| Quote: El Diablo "Quote: El Diablo "Indeed.....then start Keinhorst at LC and put Ablett on the bench. The issue then does not exist, does it ? 
Either way, I'm sure there is a logic to putting Ablett on the bench in order to shoehorn Keinhorst into the starting team any which way, thus arguably weakening the LC position. I'm just not sure what it is?
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We won't need Ablett in the second row because Hall will be playing there to allow Chisholm to be on the wing. So of course Ablett should be on the bench.
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Barring any last minute withdrawal through injury:-
Leeds: Z Hardaker; B Jones-Bishop, K Watkins, C Ablett, R Hall; K Sinfield (capt), S Ward; K Leuluai, R Burrow, J Peacock, J Jones-Buchanan, B Delaney, R Bailey.
Subs: D Griffin, C Clarkson, I Kirke, S Lunt.
Warrington: B Hodgson; C Riley, R Atkins, S Ratchford, J Monaghan; L Briers, R Myler; G Carvell, M Higham, C Hill, T Waterhouse, B Westwood, B Harrison.
Subs: Morley, M Monaghan, McCarthy, Wood
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the two sides will be:
Warrington Wolves
Brett Hodgson
Chris Riley
Ryan Atkins
Stefan Ratchford
Joel Monaghan
Lee Briers
Richie Myler
Garreth Carvell
Mickey Higham
Chris Hill
Ben Westwood
Trent Waterhouse
Ben Harrison
Interchanges: Michael Monaghan, Adrian Morley, Paul Wood, Tyrone McCarthy
Leeds Rhinos
Zak Hardaker
Ben Jones-Bishop
Kallum Watkins
Carl Ablett
Ryan Hall
Kevin Sinfield
Rob Burrow
Kylie Leuluai
Shaun Lunt
Jamie Peacock
Jamie Jones-Buchanan
Brett Delaney
Ryan Bailey
Interchanges: Ian Kirke, Darrell Griffin, Richard Moore, Stevie Ward
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| Quote: nantwichexile "Indeed.....then start Keinhorst at LC and put Ablett on the bench. The issue then does not exist, does it ? ![]()
Not bad logic and 'out of the box' thinking Nanty
Warrington are a great attacking side and are likely to score points in most games. So whilst needing a big defensive effort we will also need to keep putting plenty of points on the board to have a realistic chance if winning. Therefore I do not think that packing the bench with similar forwards, who will put in the tackles but offer little in attack, is the best game plan to beat the Wires.
With Delaney, JP and JJB capable of high tackle counts and long game time backed up with a big effort from Bailey we should have room for some extra attacking flare too. Therefore I think your suggestion is a valid one as with Ablett coming off the bench we will maintain the quality of the afore mentioned when they rotate. Playing Keinhorst would mean taking a risk but one that could well be worth it.
I would start Ward in the halves and Burrow at 9 and keep both on when Lunt gets a shift. We have to attack them and gain the initiative and that means not only taking some risks but also taking our attacking opportunities whenever they come which means having creative players always on hand.
I would have taken a risk with Webb on the bench but I guess the coaches know if he is not mentally prepared for this one.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "Not bad logic and 'out of the box' thinking Nanty
Warrington are a great attacking side and are likely to score points in most games. So whilst needing a big defensive effort we will also need to keep putting plenty of points on the board to have a realistic chance if winning. Therefore I do not think that packing the bench with similar forwards, who will put in the tackles but offer little in attack, is the best game plan to beat the Wires.
With Delaney, JP and JJB capable of high tackle counts and long game time backed up with a big effort from Bailey we should have room for some extra attacking flare too. Therefore I think your suggestion is a valid one as with Ablett coming off the bench we will maintain the quality of the afore mentioned when they rotate. Playing Keinhorst would mean taking a risk but one that could well be worth it.
I would start Ward in the halves and Burrow at 9 and keep both on when Lunt gets a shift. We have to attack them and gain the initiative and that means not only taking some risks but also taking our attacking opportunities whenever they come which means having creative players always on hand.
I would have taken a risk with Webb on the bench but I guess the coaches know if he is not mentally prepared for this one.'"
Keinhorst is very new to RL at this level, and quite new to it at any level. He shows great promise, but nothing in his 3 appearances so far suggest that he is yet at a level where you would describe him as a likely game changer from the bench. Webb as a gamble I can understand, Keinhorst's pay-off for the gamble is too unlikely. His time may well come, but I don't think it's this time. |
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