Just opinion but we're too easily outcompeted in the parts of the game that hurt. We're coming unstuck against a variety of sides more up for it. For a load of the better sides over the years, it's the system players who bring the desire (oh no, I'm turning into Tez ). Quotas may or may not; many seem to turn up on the basis they're being paid to do a job. Maybe I expect too much from our own crop. Maybe I'm just p****d off at wasting an evening. Or maybe, hopefully, I'll be singing their praises again next time out.

We’re not in a battle for 5th to 9th just yet, look at the table, were 2 points behind the 4th placed team.

The table at this stage can change quickly.

In terms of philosophy it seemed that contested restarts were going to be a major feature now this has tailed of to just the normal instance when far behind and the clock ticking. Let's hope this passiveness is a philosophy that goes the same way. It might have worked with a group he had relative the the competition at the bears, but not here. Persist and he will be gone in time which for many other positive aspects would be a shame.

Think there are at least 4 high earning players who should not be offered new contracts next year snd we need 2-4 key players in.

Interesting comments from Smith regarding Sinfield, saying he is ready for Super League now and just awaiting his chance. Well lets not wait any longer, Sezar simply doesn’t want to know, and is likely gone by end of year

I think the international break has come at a good time for us, Wane won’t pick many if any Leeds players so it gives the players and coach a couple of weeks to regroup and refocus.

If Sezer is injured I agree it’s time for Sinfield to get a go, it’s likely both halves will be gone next year (i think Austin will go home)

I think we’ll be looking at a whole new spine next year, Ive got a feeling we’ll go for a fullback and two new halfbacks.

For once our Pack looks ok which was a priority to sort, now onto the other positions.

all coaches in every sport have a way they want to play. the best recognize when something isn't working or needs modifying.
I see a stubbornness in smith that he will carry on regardless of something working or not.

He said last night the issues are something he needs to fix, we’ll have to see!

the issues have been there since game one....

Our issues are not through lack of effort. Just need to bed in now over this enforced break, stick to the process, and to use a very popular RL expression ‘get back on the horse’.

I do think Smith has a stubbornness and its his way or no way.
But that was similar to McDermott and if left to get on with it Furner.
I also agree that Austin does try his best and most of the time does the work for Sezer who rarely takes hold of the game.
I hope we do not play Gannon in the halves and let Sinfield have a run of 4 games to see what he can do with little expectation to take off the pressure.
I don`t like Martin at centre and I certainly don`t like Bentley as the back up hooker.
Both are second rowers and need to play there.
Myler for me is still capable this season at FB and I much prefer Nene in the centres.
Forwards are big enough to dominate now so the rest is down to the coach on how they play.

We probably over achieved last Season after Smith arrived, which has raised expectations this year. Even so this year has been a disappointment so far. The signings we have made have improved the squad and the prospect of Smith having a full pre season to work with them, made for an optimistic start to the year. Sadly we have failed to deliver little of the form we showed last season.
The pack looks good on paper but still makes little ground at times compared to the opposition, partly due to a lack of urgency in defence.
Both halfbacks should be replaced at the end of the season but for now I would like Sinfield to be given a chance.

You'd think. Are they demanding carries or just as happy to see it shipped wide? It is down to Smith but we also need a couple of them big men to step it up a level.

How did Daryl Powell and Ian Watson get on in their first full season in charge? Both those were tasked with a similar job as Smith

Powell is missing a few players now and doesn't it show.

It's not looking good for any of the youngsters is it when you compare with Wigan and St's who have faith in youth.