It does to me too, but on timescales 4 years isn't too far off the mark IMO. I don't know the ins and outs of current player contract lengths, but assuming a reasonable spread, it'll take a minimum of 2 off seasons to reshape the playing squad to anything like what's needed, then time to really bed in. We've really got ourselves into such a hole, having wasted the last 3-4 years. In terms of getting us back to even competing, as the saying goes, I wouldn't start from here.

I see Fev are leading against Catalan at H/T. If only we could get such a good coach

JJB is a master of clichés, analogies and twaddle.
It`s as if he is low on intelligence and thinks if he can throw in some thing or use a big word or two it will make him look clever.
I`d be happy with McGuire coming back as he has got to be better than Long.
Be it under Carr or Smith.
I really don`t want JJB or Walker coaching at any level.
Looking at the team today it`s not too dissimilar to an Agar team.

Did Ash Handley’s barber’s razor break half way through his trim?

What does that have to do with anything at all, not even relevant.

This line of thinking does my head in. The squad now can be there or thereabouts if well-coached. The standards of super league are basically crap, relatively speaking. Many of our players have way more class than they are producing.

You just end up in perpetual transition, always giving yourself an excuse...well we're still 2 seasons away, we missed out this season but still probably another 1 or 2 seasons away from probably challenging. It just goes on.

We were 2 seasons away from properly challenging, 2 seasons ago. What hetherington has allowed to happen under agar is unforgiveable.

Right now I'd have him back as a player. Seriously I really do think we should have no more former players. It looks like a long long road back .it needs completely rebuilding with new eyes

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The forwards definitely need beefing up and we are relying on a young centre who is currently injured to provide attacking spark.I understand what you are saying about a quality coach,but I can't think of any NRL head coach or assistant that could do a fix up job.Can you?

the key players, both half backs and hookers are awful, garbage.

only 1 decent centre.

thats a big rebuild and like others have said no ex players please as head coach. I'd have Danny ward running the reserves though

No excuses being sought, just the reality as I see it. As I say, I wouldn't start from here. Yet, here we are.

Totally agree. Well said

You need to think what opposition teams must think when they prepare for game against Leeds
The centre who will be up against Briscoe must be thinking all his christmases have come at once. Briscoe has never been able to tackle all he ever does it try to block his opponent in the hope he passes the ball. Briscoe is not the sharpest knife in the draw and has for the last 5 years struggled with the concept of catching the ball and running in a vaguely forward trajectory to put the ball down somewhere over the line. Hopefully.
As a wing he has not produced a decent performance since scoring 5 in the challenge cup final. As a centre he seems scared and totally out of his depth just look how many times he is ahead of the line to block his opponent because he knows he is too slow to stop, turn and chase when his opposite centre dances past him time and time again. And he’s an improvement on Hurrell? Is he really? an empty bin bag would stop more than he does

Apparently McGuire will definitely be coming in as AC, Long will go, but they're still far away from appointing a head coach.

McGuire may well be an asset to the club in some capacity (on the field after yesterday's performance) but bringing him in as AC then appointing a HC?

I think this sort of rumour has to be rubbish. There's no way the club would appoint an assistant before the head coach. No way.