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Quote: Seth "Agree but at the minute there’s not much to be added in that regard, what should be manageable is the low level of fundamental skill and discipline across the board.'"



I think that is a little unfair on Myler by Seth , he certainly creates more than Gale

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Tbh that comes across as sour grapes. Yeah we probably got away with a few, but then you had a few dubious calls go your way too. ATEOTD a half decent team would have put us away given that many opportunities.'"



Two reasons you won were we are crap ball in hand and the ref allowed you to leave hands on the ball in the ruck the first twenty five mins

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Tbh that comes across as sour grapes. Yeah we probably got away with a few, but then you had a few dubious calls go your way too. ATEOTD a half decent team would have put us away given that many opportunities.'"


It is sour grapes, absolutely. It's also true. That level of persistent foul play needs to be properly punished, it wasn't.

The fact that we'd have probably still struggled to score if you were down to 12 is neither here nor there.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "I think that is a little unfair on Myler by Seth , he certainly creates more than Gale'"

He does a job and is reliable enough for sure and from fb can find a pass at times though as a collective the spine has little dynamism and where it does ie Dwyer it’s undone by being erratic.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Two reasons you won were we are crap ball in hand and the ref allowed you to leave hands on the ball in the ruck the first twenty five mins'"


There is truth in that. I actually thought we were very poor tonight. Only area of our game I was happy with was goal line defence. However, playing the referee is a part of the game in itself. You try to get away with as much as you can. If you put hands on the ball and get away with it then you keep doing that.

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Quote: Big Jim Slade "Whilst all that's true it didn't help that every time we played the ball within your ten (and it was a lot in the second half) all your players were offside and the ref didn't blow for it once. As poor as we were I have a real issue with the ref not binning a single Hull player despite relentless cynical fouling in the second half. I'm not sure anyone on the pitch in any coloured comes out with much credit tonight.'"

They could have had 2 binned and we still would have struggled to score.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "I think that is a little unfair on Myler by Seth , he certainly creates more than Gale'"

Full back certainly gets the best of out of his footballing ability (shame he can't do it half) but as an all round number one he lacks real pace and power. Disagree on your take on Gale, but guess bottom line is we are not winning so the only real half back in the side will cop some flack.

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And the new ball steal rule is dire and needs to go, although prior seems to be doing a good job with the new rule for me as a spectacle making the game worse

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Quote: Big Jim Slade "It is sour grapes, absolutely. It's also true. That level of persistent foul play needs to be properly punished, it wasn't.

The fact that we'd have probably still struggled to score if you were down to 12 is neither here nor there.'"


As I just said in another post. It's professional sport. You push the limits as far as you can. I'd argue Leeds have been the masters of this in the past.

We did do a bit of spoiling for sure. Sometimes we got penalised, sometimes we got away with it. Fact of the matter is that you weren't good enough to break us down despite a huge amount of field position and possession. Shifting some of the blame onto the referee doesn't do anything to solve your main issue.

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not found 1 coach , or spectator who agrees with it so why not bin it ?

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "As I just said in another post. It's professional sport. You push the limits as far as you can. I'd argue Leeds have been the masters of this in the past.

We did do a bit of spoiling for sure. Sometimes we got penalised, sometimes we got away with it. Fact of the matter is that you weren't good enough to break us down despite a huge amount of field position and possession. Shifting some of the blame onto the referee doesn't do anything to solve your main issue.'"



Leeds were never the masters of that , Leeds have always wanted a quick ruck and the best games to watch were always Leeds v Saints as both sides played like that and produced great entertainment .
I would also argue if the ref had policed the hands on the ball in the ruck you would never have got out of your half in the first 40 mins either

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Similar to Phil Clarke’s predictionometer, unfortunately it’ll stay still the end of the year at least regardless of its value.

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Quote: ploinerrhino "not found 1 coach , or spectator who agrees with it so why not bin it ?'"

Totally agree. Bigger question is: was any coach, player or spectator even consulted before the rule was implemented?

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Quote: Ferdy "And the new ball steal rule is dire and needs to go, although prior seems to be doing a good job with the new rule for me as a spectacle making the game worse'"


The game was given to you last week with a duff call and you’ve got the nerve to blame the ref this week lol

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Quote: Lockers700 "The game was given to you last week with a duff call and you’ve got the nerve to blame the ref this week lol'"


Where in that quote does he blame the ref?

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