Could not agree more.

McLelland played v Dulls when they knocked us out of the cup. He scored a 14th min try and then went AWOL. You don't send people you want to Featherstone. He's playing now because they've had nobody else. Even Sutcliffe would be a better option.

Our problems are much deeper than a rookie HB with a couple of SL games on his CV.
The squad lacks Quality ,direction & depth
Our inability to do the basics is ridiculous as is our poor decision making.
Off the Pitch Agar & his assistents (Sinfields mates) aren't good enough & never will be.

So why did we send Cameron Smith, Alex Sutcliffe etc etc If we didn’t want them, don’t talk rubbish

We’ve been struggling in that dept since Kylie and JP finished and it’s no coincidence we’ve seen a downturn during that period. The pack as you quite rightly alluding to are absolutely key

Oledski seems to be making progress but I agree we’re Definitely lacking in the Front row

Yep fully agree

We need a couple of big forwards and a good winger, try Luke Briscoe in the 2nd row he offers some good go forward. Get these boys fit, their conditioning looks way off and bring someone with some coaching nous in. Webster for Carr was a big loss for us.

HB is a specialised position, not just a pack member, and Cam Smith was pants until this season. Alex Sutcliffe bulked up to contest for a 2nd row spot, because he wasn't getting a look in the centres.

HB is a specialised position???? You just said play Dwyer there a few posts ago.

What was your thoughts on Sir Kev and Maggsy after a few SL games out of interest?

Do you think maybe Cam has improved cos hes still a young lad but hes now got a few games under his belt and getting more used to SL????

Kev was a cracking loose forward as it happens. Mcguire was greedy but class. Re: McLelland and Dwyer suggestion. You try something that might work when you're desperate, because Moon did to an extent, not something that definitely won't work. If they'd gone to the video ref, we'd have been nilled 2 games in a row. I'd say that constitutes desperate.

When you look at our performances this season, we’ve been very hit and miss. We got bullied in the first game, our pack was really poor. We then won a couple of games against HKR and Salford that you’d usually expect a Leeds side to win, and then put in a really good performance against a decent Warrington team. We followed that up against TWP, but frankly they are an embarrassment of a club both on and off the field.

Then came the break, and we’ve been shocking since. It almost looks like something happened to Leeds during that break that has really rocked us back. We have a few injuries but so do most clubs, however we look like a bunch of players rather than a team at the moment.

I’m the wider context, we know we weren’t going to win anything this year (or the next two IMHO) but we are now resembling the team that Agar inherited not the one that seemed to be moving in a better direction earlier in the season.

I’m not really bothered about where we are on the league ladder, I’m bothered about where we look like we might go over the next few years. The club just doesn’t seem to know where it wants to go, or how it’s going to get there? Poor signing after poor signing isn’t demonstrating any will to turn things around, and we’ve not come out and shown we want to play the kids whilst signing nobody’s like Thompson.

Long way back to the top isn’t it...

There really is some awful 'insight' on here.