Dwyer is a real issue - every set fails when he gets involved.

He’s not the only one that’s obsessedicon_wink.gif

Hull are simply too big and we can’t get a foothold in the game, some need to calm down though its a long season

Very fair assessment

It's weird after being good for so long to see a Leeds side that goes into the season with no ambition or attempt to win anything. The appointment of Agar really shows how we're just happy to take part.

How long is Leeming out? Dwyer has been ok in patches but hes so erratic

This pyrotechnics display is as half d as our first half

I'll reserve my judgement of Agar until after 10 or 15 games but I'd be surprised if he becomes a successful Leeds coach. I'd he happily proved wrong though

I'll leave the in depth analysis to others, but we're way off challenging for top 5.

How can we not know who should be in the pack when they have a scrum on our 10?

First game and I've given up.

First game, looks like they've given up aswell.

Shambles, complete shambles.

By which time it will be another season written off and start from scratch again in 2021.

I'm sure the usual suspects will be along soon to give Mr Agar their support but it's going to be another long hard slog on this evidence. Hull have been nothing special and haven't had to get out of 2nd gear to pick up two easy points.

I’m not so bothered about the score line, we should have bothered the scorers though, but the organisation and players knowledge of where they should be is pretty awful.

Hull will probably go well this year, so I’m not disappointed by the defeat, but the manner of it is not good, and it shows us how much surgery is still required, even in players that have only joined in the last 12-18 months.

Yep that's the summary. I'm sure we'll be treated to the usual cliches and sound bites from the players and club after the game.