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Quote: Les Norton "I agree with you at the moment. Surely an NRL experienced coach can’t be behind our woeful performances, it’s got to be the poor quality players. I hate to see a coach sacked tbh...'"

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Results and performances are pretty poor. The squad is also pretty poor. I think further will stay at the club whilst we are not in serious danger of relegation.

We are close, but with over half a season to go have lots of opportunity to improve. It's not that we're great, just London are very poor, are in a bad run, and don't have the resources that Leeds do.

If we swap places and are still bottom with ten games to go, panic may set in and a shirt term motivator in the John kear mould may have to come in.

Assuming we stay up, a bad season is better long term than a reasonable one. Finishing 11th skies that there is still lots of work to be done and lots of dead wood to remove. The club shouldn't be shirking the hard decisions needed for next season. I'd redirect that about now we start taking about renewals. I can't imagine many conversations happening at the moment

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Quote: Les Norton "I agree with you at the moment. Surely an NRL experienced coach can’t be behind our woeful performances, it’s got to be the poor quality players. I hate to see a coach sacked tbh...'"


Disagree. The squad is better than bottom 2. Sorry but it is. We have spent big money on 3 or 4 signings. Should be doing better

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The squad is e, it’s about where it should be out of the 4 “big signings 2 of which are amongst our best players. Tui is crap and Ava who knows yet. I don’t think furner is the right man for the job but also the squad is crap

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Players have to take the blame for attitude effort & the sheer will to defend.
Furner is still culpable for selections tactics etc & Sinfield/GH culpable for recruitment & retentions.
Its a complete cluster at the moment & there's too many to blame. A cull is needed aswell at least 2 additions to the FT 1st team Coaching staff.

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The spine of the team is poor. Fullback stand off and scrum half are all pretty poor to be honest. Suppose walker has time on his side but for me I think he is over rated.

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Clueless in defence.
Furner hasn't a clue how to fix this problem.
Give him a one way ticket back to Oz

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It’s difficult to judge Furner based on the glaring mental weaknesses we have in the squad as well as the lack of playing ability. He can’t be held responsible for the lack of cutting edge of Watkins for example, who as well as being Captain is our go to back to come up with some magic.

Our spine is very poor, and the forwards aren’t great, but it’s the lack of mental strength that’s doing for us most of all because as soon as there is any pressure on this group they fold.

Very very few coaches could turn this bunch into even mid table whilst they have all the mental fortitude of sloppy custard...

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Quote: Ferdy "The spine of the team is poor. Fullback stand off and scrum half are all pretty poor to be honest. Suppose walker has time on his side but for me I think he is over rated.'"


Why won't he play Golding at Full back? He's great defensively

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I don’t really rate any fullback options

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Quote: Pill rhino "Why won't he play Golding at Full back? He's great defensively'"


It’s all opinions but for mine golding was always a yard too late getting anywhere. He is on the outer and will be surprised if that changes.

A few years ago he was the next big thing after he looked a cut above v Aussie schoolboys at Leigh, James Graham gave him mom and was singing his praises, a lesson that we may still get little from the current crop in the academy.

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He can’t be any worse than what we have now, at least give him a game, it would be ironic if Furner goes and the next coach gave Golding a chance, you can’t keep playing the same players and expect them to become good defensively because it ain’t going to happen with this team , if you can’t change the coach at least try some new bodies in the team

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Furner can and should be held responsible for defensive attitude and structure. Moving forward half our pack has been signed under his watch. There's also no reason to keep picking older players who are rubbish where there are kids available who frankly can't do worse.

He's more stuck in the backs, especially halfback where most of his choices are poor. Without control its hard to be competitive with even the most basic game plan. Personally I'd look at our Academy halves and pick one with a single remit - managing sets and kicking. Not to try to set up tries or be amazing, but to just bring control. McLelland may not be a star yet but in that regard surely he's worth a punt?

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McLelland is nowhere near ready to play 1st team yet in my opinion. I understand he cant do any worse but in truth he can and hes not ready to be pushed thru

We need a top class half or halves cos what we have at the moment is the best pairing but going forward they are nowhere near the required standard for Leeds.

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I just watched the Salford highlights and again what stands out is just how embarrassingly soft their tries were. Our goal line defence is beyond amateur.

The thing with the halves is that regardless of who else is in the team we'll never be competitive with any of our current options. They're so bad at what should be the absolute basics they make the whole team look a shambles, but they keep getting picked because there's no pressure on them to up their game.

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