Nailed on you will sign Cameron King from Fev at some stage. He is better than many super league hookers.

Whilst i think there are plenty of valid opinions re-our HB pairing they've only played 2 competitive games together with a young kid linking at FB & each game a different 9 started.
Id be very surprised if Furner chose to start changing that area of the Team.
I also completely agree with Marty re-youngsters ill also add i hope more fringe players are leaving asap so we can at least have money ready if a good prop becomes available.
I do think we have more to build on this week & the only change id make would be Cam Smith coming in for either Sutty or Donaldson.
I do hope Ferres maintains last nights form much better with & without the ball & Petaru looked very useful especially in his first stint.
Dwyer imo is our starting 9 & should remain so after last night.
The Walker/Golding debate has resurfaced & tbf on ladt nights performance rightly so but given how Furner is trying to intergrate our FB (just like Webb used to) i think Walker will be given more time plus AG is injured & on the "Available to depart" list.
One side issue i think looking at Watkins in particular & others still come back it highlights a need for a reserve grade.

Saw this mentioned elsewhere yesterday we dont need him mate unless Dwyer is deemed surplus.
Parcell leaves at the end of this year that leaves us with Dwyer & Corey Johnson who is going to be a top quality 9 for us if he lives up to his potential.

Agree with Marty and plenty of others saying we need to be patient. Apart from 2018 win at wire I don't think we have won there since 2011 semi and not at Wigan since semi in 2012 (may be wrong). I was encouraged last night. We got nothing off Thaler , which is becoming a habit if his. We made a lot of dumb errors and the team including spine is very raw. Despite all that we were in the game. The key error which took it away from us was Dwyer's charge down early in second half which led to them having 5/6 sets on our line with only 2 plays for us as respite, Parcell then lost ball in tackle.

Watkins is still coming back but thought Sutcliffe did really well and made some vital tackles.
Wigan have a quality, experienced spine and are simply better than us.
We will get better but it could be a year or two or three to really get there.

Callum Mc has not played a single game of pro RL, the last thing we need with a raw FB, new SO, new coach and other new players is a rookie SH. Myler made 2 poor kicks but those 2 halves need more time together.

Loads to work on but I think we need to take a view.
Regarding Cam Smith, he'll get plenty of chance as season rolls on, he has not yet got through or close to a full SL season, happy Furner brings him through gradually. I could see Smith playing a bit at SO before the season is out with possibly tui at 1

Good stats from Merrin again, and Peteru. No other forward made anywhere close to 100m though.

Sutcliffe made 35 tackles, but missed 7. That's a worry and needs fixing asap, but I thought his defence improved from last week

We looked a lot better than we did against Warrington last week but still too many errors that a costly things such as one on one missed tackles and knock on's in opp 20, Hurrell, Peteru, Dwyer, Ferres and Sutcliffe and Donaldson went well one of best games I've seen Ferres have in a long time Hurrell will be class for us this year with ball in hand he's such a threat. Lolohea needs to try and find a way to get his pace back when he debuted for NZ Warriors he was miles quicker, Merrin showed glimpses of what he can offer but need to get him at loose forward asap he's wasted at prop imo, Walker had a shocker positioning wise and the errors he made we're awful but he's still young and rarely has games as bad as that( wonder if Golding had a game like that though what sort of stick he would be getting?). Thaler was a joke from start to finish constantly penalizing us and the Merrin forward pass he gave was a joke but allowed Wigan 2 or 3 tries with forward passes in build up to stand. I'm optimistic for the coming weeks and I believe we will come good and hopefully we can get of the mark with a win at Salford next week.MOT!!! ALAW!!!!!

I thought Merrin went well last night - bar the missed tackle for the try, but that can happen.

Sutcliffe as always is a strange one - he made some really strong and important tackles, but then missed the 7, and more worryingly for me, seemed to get sucked into the middle on a number of occasions, leaving us short of numbers out wide. There were a number of occasions where he'd floated too far in field, or had made a tackle mid-field and didn't get back to his position meaning we were out numbered and having to slide at pace, which left gaps all over. These instances won't show as missed tackles, but his actions had thrown out the structure. I'm pretty sure I recall people giving Walters plenty of stick for this - almost being too keen to get involved in a tackle, forgetting about his positional responsibility.

Yeah, that channel on the right has been an obvious weakness so far, but I suppose if Furner sees Sutcliffe as a 2nd rower then we have to be patient because that position is probably the hardest to play in. It also can't be easy having a returning Watkins there at the moment.

I really like that adds some pace to the pack, but I'd start Ward there with TM at LF, and Sutcliffe on the bench.

Pretty much agree though there needs to be standards. Cam Smith should not automatically be in the 17 every week, any more than should Brett Ferres, Liam Sutcliffe, Trent Merrin etc.

Agree with all of this.

hopefully those breaks last night will inspire Tui to do sumthing about his weight, he was rapid a couple of year ago and would of jogged in that first intercept , at 23 he should still have that pace if he can drop a stone +, surely the staff are on at him daily about it.

Merrin has to play 13, play your marquee player in his best position, especially when his best position allows him to play more minutes than he is currently .

Merrin absolutely has to be at 13 - he will play his best rugby playing off the back of a good drive and quick ptb from a proper front rower.
He can do the hard yards, but you don't want him taking those early set hit ups on every set . He should be the next play after the clearing drive, with the defence not quite as set, that way he can either hit the guys behind the ruck to continue getting a roll on through the set, or he can look to offload - he's so much more than just a battering ram.

Unthinkable but does Watkins need some more time to get fit and confident away from 1st team?
I guess we just give him more time and be patient but he’s quite off the pace right now.

Definitely well off it early doors although I thought he improved as the game went on. Call me an optimist but I don't think it'll take him that long now, couple more games maybe.

Better improved performance last night. We got shafted by ref first half good and proper. Second half we made just too many errors with ball in hand and you cannot beat anybody if you keep turning the ball over. Walker was awful he does not like putting his body on the line at all and his passing is atrocious.
Myler awfull first half but played better second half. Thought Merrin went well actually, glimpses of what he is capable off. Ferres excellent more of the same please, Peteru looked good needs an extended run and think he will be a big asset, Dinaldson plays well above his size. The whole side just not gelling yet but it's getting there, the squad seems a bit more together this year, which is good, keep improving week on week and we will start winning some games, hopefully get the first win at Salford next week, as cannot see us getting anything at saints.

It will not take him long to get back to best form I agree, players like Watkins are too good to play dual reg his rehabilitation as to be in the first team. Patience full stop is required with this team said it before we need to see where we are in 10-12 games then from 12-20 games not two or even first 4-6.