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My own view on McDermott is that he is going nowhere so theres no point harping on about him every time we lose. Its a waste of energy.

Whos been the best coach in SL in last 10 years? Trent Robinson for me. A superb coach who built a culture in Perpignan that no other coach has got close to. Done a tremendous job with Roosters since returning to the NRL. He will end up coaching NSW at some point.

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It’s pointless trying to have a discussion. You have all decided that everything is McDermott’s fault. Then for some reason GH is coming under fire for not spending money. It’s beyond any form of logic or reason.

We win, it’s not down to McD, we lose, it’s down to McD and GH because he’s not spent money. I’m done with this board, a bunch of self interested snowflakes that can’t think further than the last loss.

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Close the door on the way out Dyl.

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he'll be back. under yet another name

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Quote: _dyl_ "It’s pointless trying to have a discussion. You have all decided that everything is McDermott’s fault. Then for some reason GH is coming under fire for not spending money. It’s beyond any form of logic or reason.

We win, it’s not down to McD, we lose, it’s down to McD and GH because he’s not spent money. I’m done with this board, a bunch of self interested snowflakes that can’t think further than the last loss.'"

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Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "Michael Maguire for the short time he was here. Although the competition for that honour hasnt been great imo, as Justin Holbrook is proving now. Darryl powell from the british coaches, done a brilliant job taking cas from where they were to where they are now, also did a lot of good work for us just before Tony Smith took over, would love him back at Leeds at some point.'"


Maguire brought a style of rugby to this country that was roundly criticised, wigan were a horrible team to watch under him and they still have some of that in them.

Tony Smith was a great coach whi got criticised. Onhere just like McDermott

Powell will become a great coach when he can actually coach a team to win something and his incessant whinging does him no favours

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Quote: Gotcha "Give over, we’re you asleep all season? Without the Segeyaro signing we were gone, no doubt about it.

As for your question of who better last ten years in this comp. that depends what your measurement is. Most would be the true answer. But if it is only trophy’s then of course none. But the whole point is, super league is a doomed competition because of the likes of McDermott and his ilk. Between them they have taken our game backwards by many years. The longer they stay in the game at the top, the worse our comp becomes. To measure against one another is a pointless excersise, more important is what could have been with truer quality coaches.'"



What a load of negative whinging nonsense are you sure you actually enjoy watching Rugby League let alone supporting Leeds, with supporters like this im not sure we deserv the sucess weve had

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "My own view on McDermott is that he is going nowhere so theres no point harping on about him every time we lose. Its a waste of energy.

Whos been the best coach in SL in last 10 years? Trent Robinson for me. A superb coach who built a culture in Perpignan that no other coach has got close to. Done a tremendous job with Roosters since returning to the NRL. He will end up coaching NSW at some point.'"


Yes a great coach although coaching NSW is no barometer of a decent coach

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Quote: _dyl_ "It’s pointless trying to have a discussion. You have all decided that everything is McDermott’s fault. Then for some reason GH is coming under fire for not spending money. It’s beyond any form of logic or reason.

We win, it’s not down to McD, we lose, it’s down to McD and GH because he’s not spent money. I’m done with this board, a bunch of self interested snowflakes that can’t think further than the last loss.'"



Despite the flounce and the egregious snowflake usage you’re spot on, everyone of these posts sbout GH McDermott and the team being past it have been rinsed and repeated on here for 7 years s now

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Quote: christopher "What a load of negative whinging nonsense are you sure you actually enjoy watching Rugby League let alone supporting Leeds, with supporters like this im not sure we deserv the sucess weve had'"


No I don’t enjoy it in the slightest, that is the point. Played and watched continuously at all levels since 1978, and it pains me to see what the game as become in this country, especially since 2010 onwards. It is horrendous at times. My own club are as boring and turgid as anyone else. I go because it is a family thing, with dad, previously grandad also, and with kids. Kids are getting more bored each week, a generation along with other families that will be lost to the game once stopped.

I used to watch four or five games a day. I struggle sitting through one now. Absolutely irks me that union has taken over us for entertainment. And it is all down to the poor coaching in place at our top clubs. Bring the Aussies back in and we might get back to an acceptable level again.

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Quote: christopher "Despite the flounce and the egregious snowflake usage you’re spot on, everyone of these posts sbout GH McDermott and the team being past it have been rinsed and repeated on here for 7 years s now'"

Just out of interest what makes you against constructive criticism or questioning of recruitment performances selection etc?
Do you genuinely think we shouldn't question any of the above at all because of past glories?
Also what you & Dyl etc are overlooking imo is the blatant lack of a McGuire Sinfield JP Burrow and the obvious ageing/injuries and long minutes catching up with Jjb Delaney Ablett etc.
Now even with a fully fit squad we lack genuine quality that imo is beyond dispute and there's plenty of evidence from previous success' where GH has proved to be ruthless & calculated wrt release ,retention and recruitment personally I prefer that approach.

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Christopher - I appreciate your support for McDermott but even you cannot be happy with the style of play we are adopting. Do you think it is a way of attracting both corporate and social fans?

The standard in SL across the board is dire - something has to change or the game will be back as a part-time professional sport.

The best technical coaches we have had in SL have come from down under: Trent Robinson, Tony Smith, Graham Murray, Michael Maguire etc. they at least can set an attacking structure that works and players improve their basic skill sets - something that McDermott for all his success seems incapable of delivering.


I don't see McDermott going anywhere but it doesn't detract from the abysmal style of rugby we play.

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Quote: Gotcha "No I don’t enjoy it in the slightest, that is the point. Played and watched continuously at all levels since 1978, and it pains me to see what the game as become in this country, especially since 2010 onwards. It is horrendous at times. My own club are as boring and turgid as anyone else. I go because it is a family thing, with dad, previously grandad also, and with kids. Kids are getting more bored each week, a generation along with other families that will be lost to the game once stopped.

I used to watch four or five games a day. I struggle sitting through one now. Absolutely irks me that union has taken over us for entertainment. And it is all down to the poor coaching in place at our top clubs. Bring the Aussies back in and we might get back to an acceptable level again.'"


Fair enough you don’t enjoy it, why bother posting the same stuff on here over and over again about something you don’t enjoy? Seems strange to me but each to their own

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Quote: christopher "Fair enough you don’t enjoy it, why bother posting the same stuff on here over and over again about something you don’t enjoy? Seems strange to me but each to their own'"


Because it is a message board to share personal views. That is my view.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Christopher - I appreciate your support for McDermott but even you cannot be happy with the style of play we are adopting. Do you think it is a way of attracting both corporate and social fans?

The standard in SL across the board is dire - something has to change or the game will be back as a part-time professional sport.

The best technical coaches we have had in SL have come from down under

As stated before Wigan coached by Maguire were awful to watch.

Do i enjoy watch Leeds coached by McDermott? Yes sometimes no othertimes what I thonk is boring is the same arguments posted time and time again about players been past it McDermott being clueless etc etc when time and again they prove people wrong.

Am I happy with our current campaign, no I was hoping for better, but you cannot simpy dismiss the amount of injuries we have had and how that has affected us, yes other teams have injuries snd may have coped better!

It was the same in 2016 when many posters would not accept that the training facility situation was affecting the performances when it ckearly was, these are not excuses they are reasons.

Sal you clearly cannot be objective about McDermott you have bagged him since he arrived along with the senior players who have proved you wrong many times.

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