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| Agree wholeheartedly with Mr Eve, we should only want players here who want to play for the club as a bare minimum, if possible it should go beyond that, it's what our success has been built upon.
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| Quote: Gotcha "I implied nothing of the sort, hence why I said do not assume. And just to be clear, I have also neither said a shock to anything. Although, unless the full details are released, which I very much doubt they would be, then I am sure other teams supporters will very surprised.
The reaction to immediately defend the club always brings out unnecessary comments from some, and hence bitchiness and arguments. The club have been at fault with a lot of things, but this situation is not of their doing, and they are trying to do the right thing. Take it as that.'"
Guys, bear in mind that this is the bloke who said we were signing Westerman, Clark and Burgess. Then said Westerman joined Wire because he needed Clark to chauffeur him to Warrington.
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| I think its sad that the players in question feel the need to move on just as things are at their lowest.
Baldwinson i can fully understand he's not been given a fair crack imo but the other 2 id expect more loyalty from.
Either way changes are needed on & off the pitch in terms of how many that's down to GH.
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| Now this is more like the Leeds of old.
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20th May - Historic day for the club as it was 55 years ago today at Odsal that Leeds lifted the Championship Trophy for the first time in their history - and again 44 years ago today that they lifted it for the third time.
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| Quote: William Eve "Seems like there's a reluctance to answer my question.
Never mind, here's my opinion...
Any Leeds player who is wanting away from the club to pursue his career elsewhere? That's fine. Thanks for all your efforts in the past. But not this season. See you later. You do not play for Leeds again.
If any of those players above are still being selected, then those responsible for those selections and anyone else applying pressure on those responsible for those selections also need to consider their futures elsewhere.'"
I agree, but as far as i'm concerned any player who has said they want away and if true shouldn't even pull on the Leeds jumper from the moment they spoke out. They should be made to train on their own or with the kids and humbled until they are taken off our hands. I wouldn't want anyone playing for Leeds who didn't have their heart in it, and that includes anyone, Bye bye and all the best.
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| Before I started a mass exodus by throwing unhappy players overboard, I want to know why they were unsettled in the first place. If they've lost heart for the fight that's one thing but if there is serious and widespread unrest for other reason(s) that might be different. But for now its all rumours.
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| I'm not as black and white about team selection. Quality players are not easy to come by, if they are not producing their best then IMO a better strategy is to fix that using management and coaching. Players (and employees) have a right, if not an obligation, to bring up things that are creating difficulties for them and contributing to underperformance. If you are not particularly articulate, or are not expecting a positive response to criticism asking to leave might be simply a poor way of asking for help.
A poor working environment will usually lead to poor performance and unsettled workers (and I'm not talking about a bit of flooding etc. - it's all about people and relationships).
However, if someone hands their notice in (or sporting equivalent) you either try and convince them they are making a mistake, accept they are leaving and make them work out their notice (generally very hit and miss - usually miss), or say "thanks, leave immediately".
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| Quote: DHM "I'm not as black and white about team selection. Quality players are not easy to come by, if they are not producing their best then IMO a better strategy is to fix that using management and coaching. Players (and employees) have a right, if not an obligation, to bring up things that are creating difficulties for them and contributing to underperformance. If you are not particularly articulate, or are not expecting a positive response to criticism asking to leave might be simply a poor way of asking for help.
A poor working environment will usually lead to poor performance and unsettled workers (and I'm not talking about a bit of flooding etc. - it's all about people and relationships).
However, if someone hands their notice in (or sporting equivalent) you either try and convince them they are making a mistake, accept they are leaving and make them work out their notice (generally very hit and miss - usually miss), or say "thanks, leave immediately".'"
Nail on head for mine
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| Quote: Gotcha "I implied nothing of the sort, hence why I said do not assume. And just to be clear, I have also neither said a shock to anything. Although, unless the full details are released, which I very much doubt they would be, then I am sure other teams supporters will very surprised.
The reaction to immediately defend the club always brings out unnecessary comments from some, and hence bitchiness and arguments. The club have been at fault with a lot of things, but this situation is not of their doing, and they are trying to do the right thing. Take it as that.'"
Accepted
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| Quote: William Eve "Seems like there's a reluctance to answer my question.
Never mind, here's my opinion...
Any Leeds player who is wanting away from the club to pursue his career elsewhere? That's fine. Thanks for all your efforts in the past. But not this season. See you later. You do not play for Leeds again.
If any of those players above are still being selected, then those responsible for those selections and anyone else applying pressure on those responsible for those selections also need to consider their futures elsewhere.'"
Jeff - boot is on the other foot - Leeds want to use Watkins to move to Bath as part of the deal to get Sam Burgess - so would it be OK for Watkins to refuse to play?
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| Let's just say on tuesday when this is announced shockwaves will be sent through the world!
If I say much more my life will be in danger.
(tuesday comes round and it's Ryan Hall announcing a new lucrative 5 year deal).
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| [size This message will self destruct 3 seconds after it is posted and all of the confidential information will be encrypted, so only the posters that are actually reading this post and at the exact time that it was posted will be able to see their names revealed [/size
I also know the names of the players involved and I fully understand why the other posters that also know their names will not divulge their identities as this is definitely top secret and that when the full story finally comes out and the reasons as to why it has come about,then everyone will understand when it sends shock waves throughout the whole RL world
I have also been sworn to secrecy and must not under any circumstances reveal their identities but I have decided to ignore this as I think that the players names should be revealed and they are@"*&^%*@~?"£"$% and
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I thought that the first One was obvious but that the second one was not
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| Has any of this got to do with a piano player and his husband?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Jeff - boot is on the other foot - Leeds want to use Watkins to move to Bath as part of the deal to get Sam Burgess - so would it be OK for Watkins to refuse to play?'"
Sam Burgess to Leeds?
Really?
You gave that particular wet dream a microgram of credibility?
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| Quote: William Eve "Sam Burgess to Leeds?
Really?
You gave that particular wet dream a microgram of credibility?'"
No I didn't but what I was trying to illustrate is what happens in your scenario when it is the club that want rid of the player?
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