Laughing and joking after yet another dire performance is not showing contempt to the paying spectators? At least pretend to care.

So how many games would you suscribe to before saying there might just be a bit of a problem? And your solution(s)? A bit Neville Chambelain-ish maybe? (You're the one that made the war analogy )

Watching Saints, and again they are as bad if not worse than us at times.To say they could be joint top with a win today (not going to happen on current evidence) is a real head scratcher.Its a funny old game

Wilkin should just retire and become a pundit full time, he is actually pretty good at it.

Agreed. Please, please, please have him replace Barry, Terry and Phil Clarke at Sky. O'Connor in particular is just a noise, nothing even remotely worth listening to.

So what is your answer? Yet more time? More appeasment (and hope things will get better) of a bad situation?

That it is strange paradox - coach is influencing players positively who then make errors!!

Of that team last night 9 would drop out to accommodate those injured - really?

8 I reckon. And it wasn't just the errors at the beginning of the 2nd half that took it away from Leeds, both teams were pretty ordinary in the first half (hence the close looking scoreline) then Wigan moved up to 3rd gear to pull away comfortably.

If we score off an excellent attacking kick it's down to the skill of our kicker and a great kick chase or planned play (top coaching obviously). When the opposition do the same thing it's because the nearest Leeds player made a "mistake". Two great high bombs on the back of aggressive go forward, dropping on an isolated winger under heavy challenge. Very good attacking rugby league. If executed well, extremely difficult to defend, especially against a guy like Manfredi.

Anyone who watched the way the forwards of our fellow cellar dwellers Huddersfield run onto the ball, angles, lines, timing etc. And then watched them routinely pick the correct side to attack wide when Saints were not numbering up has to realise how far away we are.
The boys tried but they all look lost.

Your attempts to continually polish an increasingly smelly turd duly noted. Never gave up? Half the team never started. Honourable exceptions Galloway & Keinhorst.

The influence was there, leading Leeds to the heaviest defeat of the Magic event against one of the poorest Wigan teams ever assembled. Having seen all twelve SL teams play this weekend several clubs may end the season switching between the eight and bottom four, Leeds don't look like being one of them.

Lookin forward to the regular Hunslet derbies

That would mean Hunslet gaining promotion.Leeds have more chance of winning this years GF.

Let's all rejoice, even McDermott cannot reduce Leeds to second best in their own city.