I come some way short of being covered in them. But I do have a few on my arms and back. I don't think I'm a big daft lad. I'm certainly not that big. They're quite popular with a lot of people these days, not just rugby players. I know quote a few people with tattoos who are perfectly intelligent, decent human beings. I know a few people with no tattoos who are not. I also know decent, intelligent people with no tattoos, and fecking morons with tattoos. Not sure there's much correlation really.

Of course I respect your views, but they are at odds with my onw experience.

If anybody could tell me what HArdaker has actually done, and what Bailey and Delaney have actually done I'd find that easier to answer. Am I the only person not "in the know" here?

Sorry but the point about tattoos is complete tosh just because a player has tattoos doesn't make him an idiot this just seems extremely sereotypical and FYI peacocks tattoos were all done later in life whilst he's been at leeds as I know the tattooist where he had them done I also think I've seen an article sometime in the YEP

It doesn't matter about being "in the know". The post was in response to looking up to players like Sinfield, etc, which was a valid point. I like bringing up my story about Sinfield when he was younger, and I got the March brothers to sign up for Wakefield, and they had nothing but bad to say about Sinfield because he didn't drink and go out on the p1ss. Sinfield is how it should be.

But in repsonse to the other poster there is also the likes of Bailey and Delaney, who are complete and utter pish heads. Appears to be overlooked, but yet perhaps Hardaker is socialising and looking up to the wrong players.

Did Lenegan walk out when the price wasn't to his liking?

Its not the drinking thats the issue its the (bad) timeing.

I'd rather keep Hardaker, but if he must leave, can we have Matt Bowen instead?

If this is the case, it had better have been something pretty bad that he's done. He's going (assuming he applies himself) to be a terrific RL player. Kearney is good, but nowhere near Hardaker now, let alone where Hardaker will be in 2-3 years.

It would be a massive blow. It's been a while since we've let a real superstar go to a rival club.

Its not just the discipline issue, some have mentioned that Zak wants more money as well so that may be the push factor if he is not happy with his contract at Leeds, GH is the last person to crumble under a wage demand and I think B Mac is the last coach to put up with an unhappy player that may disrupt others

'Big thankyou from the fans and not just Leeds.... Been great to get that msgs.... Time to crack on now and looking forwad to 2014 #LR14'

'Forwad to a few days of rest and the back on for Leeds....!' (sic)

Now I don't know what's going on, but it appears he doesn't seem aware that he will be playing for another club next year?

IF this is all true, is Kearney a significant step forward from BJB? Or is the BJB to Wire deal apparently done too?

IF this is true and Wigan were to pay a fee, I'd rather use it to get some of the oft-alluded to (and I will use bloodbath's term here becasue I like it) wrecking ball forwards in.

Harrigan-If your source is Gledhill then i'd say the "deal as good as done" may not quite be what you've been told.
Also Kearney isnt good enough ,too old and certainly no better than Bjb as a FB imo.
IF the Club sell ZH i'd say they'll need a better calibre of signing than BK to offset the loss of a top quality player who if he lives up to his potential could be a top class FB for years to come.