I come some way short of being covered in them. But I do have a few on my arms and back. I don't think I'm a big daft lad. I'm certainly not that big. They're quite popular with a lot of people these days, not just rugby players. I know quote a few people with tattoos who are perfectly intelligent, decent human beings. I know a few people with no tattoos who are not. I also know decent, intelligent people with no tattoos, and fecking morons with tattoos. Not sure there's much correlation really.

Of course I respect your views, but they are at odds with my onw experience.

If anybody could tell me what HArdaker has actually done, and what Bailey and Delaney have actually done I'd find that easier to answer. Am I the only person not "in the know" here?

Sorry but the point about tattoos is complete tosh just because a player has tattoos doesn't make him an idiot this just seems extremely sereotypical and FYI peacocks tattoos were all done later in life whilst he's been at leeds as I know the tattooist where he had them done I also think I've seen an article sometime in the YEP

It doesn't matter about being "in the know". The post was in response to looking up to players like Sinfield, etc, which was a valid point. I like bringing up my story about Sinfield when he was younger, and I got the March brothers to sign up for Wakefield, and they had nothing but bad to say about Sinfield because he didn't drink and go out on the p1ss. Sinfield is how it should be.

But in repsonse to the other poster there is also the likes of Bailey and Delaney, who are complete and utter pish heads. Appears to be overlooked, but yet perhaps Hardaker is socialising and looking up to the wrong players.

Did Lenegan walk out when the price wasn't to his liking?

Its not the drinking thats the issue its the (bad) timeing.

Quote Harrigan="Harrigan":lol: You don't even need to defend what you said to this guy. The rumour you heard is true and we are already talking to other full backs. The statement Zak brought out was a generic smoothing over statement to please the fans. Nothing more, nothing less. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6221616 Bottom line... This deal, by the way, is as good as done. Leeds and Wigan are just sorting out payment. I will gladly come back on here and eat humble pie if I am wrong but the only thing in the way of it not happening right now is an agreement on a fee. Brett Kearney had talks with Leeds over the weekend (and this is not a "rumour") but I have heard a rumour we have spoke to another fullback too. At the end of the day the Bulls need to reduce their wage bill. Kearney is a high earner for them and Leeds need a good full back for next year. Kearney fits that bill.'" Wouldn’t the fee be a relatively important issue though? I can’t see how it can be both ‘as good as done’ but they still need to negotiate a fee?

Quote Harrigan="Harrigan":lol: You don't even need to defend what you said to this guy. The rumour you heard is true and we are already talking to other full backs. The statement Zak brought out was a generic smoothing over statement to please the fans. Nothing more, nothing less. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6221616 Bottom line... This deal, by the way, is as good as done. Leeds and Wigan are just sorting out payment. I will gladly come back on here and eat humble pie if I am wrong but the only thing in the way of it not happening right now is an agreement on a fee. Brett Kearney had talks with Leeds over the weekend (and this is not a "rumour") but I have heard a rumour we have spoke to another fullback too. At the end of the day the Bulls need to reduce their wage bill. Kearney is a high earner for them and Leeds need a good full back for next year. Kearney fits that bill.'" Wouldn’t the fee be a relatively important issue though? I can’t see how it can be both ‘as good as done’ but they still need to negotiate a fee?

I'd rather keep Hardaker, but if he must leave, can we have Matt Bowen instead?

Quote Harrigan="Harrigan":lol: You don't even need to defend what you said to this guy. The rumour you heard is true and we are already talking to other full backs. The statement Zak brought out was a generic smoothing over statement to please the fans. Nothing more, nothing less. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6221616 Bottom line... This deal, by the way, is as good as done. Leeds and Wigan are just sorting out payment. I will gladly come back on here and eat humble pie if I am wrong but the only thing in the way of it not happening right now is an agreement on a fee. Brett Kearney had talks with Leeds over the weekend (and this is not a "rumour") but I have heard a rumour we have spoke to another fullback too. At the end of the day the Bulls need to reduce their wage bill. Kearney is a high earner for them and Leeds need a good full back for next year. Kearney fits that bill.'" Agreed - This is what I have been hearing and reading, Bradford board even suggests that Kearney is done deal as well...BUT I am open for any other transfers or deals until the season starts and we see the 25 man squad for Leeds

Quote Harrigan="Harrigan":lol: You don't even need to defend what you said to this guy. The rumour you heard is true and we are already talking to other full backs. The statement Zak brought out was a generic smoothing over statement to please the fans. Nothing more, nothing less. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6221616 Bottom line... This deal, by the way, is as good as done. Leeds and Wigan are just sorting out payment. I will gladly come back on here and eat humble pie if I am wrong but the only thing in the way of it not happening right now is an agreement on a fee. Brett Kearney had talks with Leeds over the weekend (and this is not a "rumour") but I have heard a rumour we have spoke to another fullback too. At the end of the day the Bulls need to reduce their wage bill. Kearney is a high earner for them and Leeds need a good full back for next year. Kearney fits that bill.'" Agreed - This is what I have been hearing and reading, Bradford board even suggests that Kearney is done deal as well...BUT I am open for any other transfers or deals until the season starts and we see the 25 man squad for Leeds

If this is the case, it had better have been something pretty bad that he's done. He's going (assuming he applies himself) to be a terrific RL player. Kearney is good, but nowhere near Hardaker now, let alone where Hardaker will be in 2-3 years.

It would be a massive blow. It's been a while since we've let a real superstar go to a rival club.

Its not just the discipline issue, some have mentioned that Zak wants more money as well so that may be the push factor if he is not happy with his contract at Leeds, GH is the last person to crumble under a wage demand and I think B Mac is the last coach to put up with an unhappy player that may disrupt others