I think McGuire thought it was a legitimate try, I did on viewing the replay until Cummins explained it.

The NRL system is far more clear cut and puts the onus on the on off field ref to make the call, which should be the case. Over here refs seem very reluctant to take responsibilty for making the call which is wrong.

If you're going to have the referral system why then tie one hand behind the video referee's back?

Did you see the Manly winger's try last week? The video referee appeared obliged to give it based on the live call rather than on the basis of the video evidence which seemed to be leaning away from it being a legitimate score but not quite enough to rule out the possibility entirely.

The advantage of the NRL system, it appears to me, is more one of speeding up the VR process rather than necessarily getting the call 100% correct.

Yes i did, i never said their system was perfect.

I think McGuire has been watching too many LUFC games recently.
He is always quick to milk a foul or appeal strongly for something that he probably knows is wrong.
Just ask the Wigan fans or Phil Clarke
Until I was told the rules from the replay shown at the gorund last Friday I thought it was a certain try and did feel Bentham/Thaler had robbed us of 6 points.

Quite so and in that instance arguably not even as perfect as the one we have in SL.

Same home ground, Challenge Cup semi-final V Featherstone - Kevin 'too casual' Iro and another correct no try/knock-on decision given.

(The disappointing aspect is the number of bad decisions that will have occurred in these type of situations between these instances.)

You see I just had a totally different view of it, I thought Mcguire got the ball down, but it was short and then rolled it forward under his forearm on to the line I didn’t think he dropped it at all, it wasn’t until I watched it again an listened to the commentary that I hear they were looking to see if he had dropped it and I still think that if they were a metre forward that try is given.

Still, some of those you win, some you lose.

Very true..
Maybe we should get rid of the VR have 2 refs and let them make the decision at the time as they see it?
If we could say that 100% of VR decisions are correct then keep it.
But clearly mistakes are made by the VR some very obvious ( see steve ganson) that maybe we doin`t need them afterall.

Like almost everyone else, I thought it was a try because of the downward pressure by the forearm.
But then, the argument about having lost it from the hand sounded right, so I watched it again.

Now, I think that Lomax dislodged it (illegally as there were two men in the tackle), which rolled it back along the underside of the forearm.

But, as you say, some you win, some you lose.

Genuine question:

Is what Cummins explained in the commentary an actual rule from the laws of the game, or an interpretation that has been agreed in recent years in the Professional referees classroom sessions?

Well, it has to be one of the two.

What makes me curious is that everyone seems to be accepting the explanation, but why is it that no one across all the club forums appears have heard of this "rule" until it was explained on Friday night? The laws of the game possibly haven't been rewritten, in respect of a knock on, in the last 50 years?

I would have thought McGuire knew the rules and was trying it on.
It`s what he does these days trying to con the ref.
If he gets away with it then good luck to him.
Cheating is only cheating when you get caught.
Yes I was calling for him to be dropped as he did nothing in his last game.
However we don`t appear to have anyone yet who the coach thinks can fill that void.
I doubt very much he will get any better next year and with him and Sinfield on the park we probably have the slowest half back pairing in RL.
I am sure he will play next Friday and I for one hope he has a stormer.
As far as my comment about the Wigan fans go it was said with a wink or had you missed that for the purpose of your argument?