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| Quote: El Diablo "
Missing out on Morley was hardly a hammer blow to the club in the end was it?
Missing out on Harris was (alongside the arrivals of Furner, Ellis, Peacock, Webb and Lauititi) one of the best things to happen to the club in the transfer market in years.'"
Agreed. But i did say that in my post.
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| Quote: John_D "Bradley Clyde's replacement'"
Bradley Clyde's replacement what? Hip?
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| Quote: Ferdy "Ellis replacing Ellis from when he left?
Not really a position that we are weak in and hopefully hauraki or kirke may move on? Probably hauraki. However he still in a quality player swapping Ellis with hauraki would only improve the team. Cannot see sinfield moving back to lock if we sign Ellis though.'"
Unlike some on here who have apparently unrestricted access to bank accounts and personnel files from the club, I can only speculate. But I'd be willing to bet Ellis would be considerably more expensive than Hauraki.
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| Quote: El Diablo "Unlike some on here who have apparently unrestricted access to bank accounts and personnel files from the club, I can only speculate. But I'd be willing to bet Ellis would be considerably more expensive than Hauraki.'"
Again I wouldn't know but I guess your right, I was meaning more in terms of the amount of players we have rather than the money issue
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| TBH if Ellis comes back, we could offload Kirke and Hauraki for a start. We'd still have JJB, Ablett, Delaney, Clarkson and Pitts for the back row on top of Ellis, never mind any younger players knocking on the door. TBH even if we don't sign Ellis I'm still of a view that we have too many 'filler' forwards around.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "TBH if Ellis comes back, we could offload Kirke and Hauraki for a start. We'd still have JJB, Ablett, Delaney, Clarkson and Pitts for the back row on top of Ellis, never mind any younger players knocking on the door. TBH even if we don't sign Ellis I'm still of a view that we have too many 'filler' forwards around.'"
I think we do have quite a few filler forwards. The problem is that forwards pick up injuries and need rests. Its always useful to have a big squad as it allows rotation and promotes competition.
I think the problem most people have with Kirke isn't his ability, its the fact that he was for the most of last season a first 17 member. This is different this season, but it seems like its fashionable to bash him, even when he's not playing
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| Quote: The Eagle "I think we do have quite a few filler forwards. The problem is that forwards pick up injuries and need rests. Its always useful to have a big squad as it allows rotation and promotes competition.
I think the problem most people have with Kirke isn't his ability, its the fact that he was for the most of last season a first 17 member. This is different this season, but it seems like its fashionable to bash him, even when he's not playing'"
If he is deserving his place (kirke) throught his performances in training then fair enough. Like the above Post I don't really have a problem with him being in the squad. He does frustrate slightly in that he has all the physical attributes. And I wasn't massively impressed with him playing every week, but he is useful to have in the squad
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| Quote: Lee Tucker FC Fan 2006 "well if ellis come to Hull FC his wages should be ok by this
It's not 1996.
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| Quote: Sheldon "It's not 1996.'"
F**k! Did I miss another decade?
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| Quote: The Eagle "I think the problem most people have with Kirke isn't his ability, its the fact that he was for the most of last season a first 17 member. This is different this season, but it seems like its fashionable to bash him, even when he's not playing'"
This is probably correct. However, what a shame from the coach that even tonight he drops an inform and trying to impress Pitts for the lum of wood that is Kirke.
Filling in when injuries arise or to rest someone playing lots of game time is one thing, but getting preference to a better prospect is poor form.
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| So we're signing Ellis, Williams and Cherry-evans? sounds good to me
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| Quote: Gotcha "This is probably correct. However, what a shame from the coach that even tonight he drops an inform and trying to impress Pitts for the lum of wood that is Kirke.
Filling in when injuries arise or to rest someone playing lots of game time is one thing, but getting preference to a better prospect is poor form.'"
It's arguable Pitts has been dropped for Clarkson but whether it's Clarkson or Kirke it's a baffling decision. Pitts has been very energetic and shown a high work rate in the last couple of games.
Not something Kirke ever brings to the table and something, offensively at least, that has been disappointing with Clarkson.
However, to decide not to go to a game on the basis of Pitts being dropped/rested is an OTT reaction fella. Not that I had any intention of ever going to the game mind.
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| Quote: G1 "Quote: G1 "This is probably correct. However, what a shame from the coach that even tonight he drops an inform and trying to impress Pitts for the lum of wood that is Kirke.
Filling in when injuries arise or to rest someone playing lots of game time is one thing, but getting preference to a better prospect is poor form.'"
It's arguable Pitts has been dropped for Clarkson but whether it's Clarkson or Kirke it's a baffling decision. Pitts has been very energetic and shown a high work rate in the last couple of games.
Not something Kirke ever brings to the table and something, offensively at least, that has been disappointing with Clarkson.
However, to decide not to go to a game on the basis of Pitts being dropped/rested is an OTT reaction fella. Not that I had any intention of ever going to the game mind.'"
I'd be interested to see how he goes in the second row (his main position), and I assume with a different role and more game time he may come out ok.
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| Quote: The Eagle "I'd be interested to see how he goes in the second row (his main position), and I assume with a different role and more game time he may come out ok.'"
Kirkette
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