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Quote: Seth "I was going to mention wigan and they were poor though their league position gives them much more credit to play with than us.'"


I agree but they looked really poor to me, they could easily start slipping down the table and be joining us if they don’t pick up.

I still think we can get into the playoffs but with our injuries it’s starting to look like a tough ask.

Smith won’t be going this year (rightly IMO), sorry to disappoint some in here.

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By the way that was not what I typed.

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Quote: christopher "I agree but they looked really poor to me, they could easily start slipping down the table and be joining us if they don’t pick up.

I still think we can get into the playoffs but with our injuries it’s starting to look like a tough ask.

Smith won’t be going this year (rightly IMO), sorry to disappoint some in here.'"


We may still make the playoffs but I doubt it with the low level of so many performances.

Wire, cats, Wigan and Saints will be in, can we catch Salford and Leigh and get past HKR? Not playing like we do away from home most games.

Smith looked a worried man near the end, like a rabbit in the headlights and he is under pressure now. He’s signed a number of players who are not good enough, our last captain has walked out and he can’t persuade young players to stay(I’m not convinced about Walters or Tindall but fact is we offered deals and Both are leaving).

He can’t seem to arrest entire halves of abysmal, error strewn, brain dead play.

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Quote: Sir Gregory ParsloeP "We may still make the playoffs but I doubt it with the low level of so many performances.

Wire, cats, Wigan and Saints will be in, can we catch Salford and Leigh and get past HKR? Not playing like we do away from home most games.

Smith looked a worried man near the end, like a rabbit in the headlights and he is under pressure now. He’s signed a number of players who are not good enough, our last captain has walked out and he can’t persuade young players to stay(I’m not convinced about Walters or Tindall but fact is we offered deals and Both are leaving).

He can’t seem to arrest entire halves of abysmal, error strewn, brain dead play.'"


If we make the play offs the game needs to scrap the play off system. I like the grand final but it has killed the CC and for a team like Leeds with no attacking structure whatsoever to make the play offs would be embarrassing. Smith has 3 games into next season for me. If we're still this bad we need a change.

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Quote: Sir Gregory ParsloeP "We may still make the playoffs but I doubt it with the low level of so many performances.

Wire, cats, Wigan and Saints will be in, can we catch Salford and Leigh and get past HKR? Not playing like we do away from home most games.

Smith looked a worried man near the end, like a rabbit in the headlights and he is under pressure now. He’s signed a number of players who are not good enough, our last captain has walked out and he can’t persuade young players to stay(I’m not convinced about Walters or Tindall but fact is we offered deals and Both are leaving).

He can’t seem to arrest entire halves of abysmal, error strewn, brain dead play.'"

Going into the game I suspected it was no better than a 50 - 50 given the amount of players we had out (before Holroyd's late withdrawal) and the massive improvement any game against Leeds brings out of Cas. But boy that was dreadful! 13 minutes to defend a 10 point lead against a poor team and we couldn't summon the professionalism to do it. I would have taken an ugly win this week, but were not good enough to manage even that. Come on, Rohan - sort it out.

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We're not getting into the playoffs this year and nor do we deserve to. 14 games in and still producing dross like tonight irrespective of injuries is not acceptable and very worrying.

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It’s simply not good enough for a club of our stature. We’ve gone backwards this year big time

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Need to draw a line under it. Don’t let it ruin people’s weekends.
I’ve played and watched sport my whole life and I’m 42 now. Far more disappointments than achievements in both amateur and professional sport.
Leeds will come good again. May take another few years, but will definitely happen. Keep the faith!

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Quote: Seth "We're not getting into the playoffs this year and nor do we deserve to. 14 games in and still producing dross like tonight irrespective of injuries is not acceptable and very worrying.'"


Perfectly put Seth

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Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "Olpherts is right up there for the worst player iv seen in a Leeds shirt, that includes Marvin Golden

Hope he never Plays for us again'"


Marvin Golden was nowhere near Olpherts standard

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Olpherts is Joe Vickery bad.

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Interesting comment from Smith when interviewed.
Saying we have been narrowly beat in a few games but it is a result based competition or words to that effect.
Maybe he knows that he is now on thin ice losing 5 out of the last 6 regardless of us losing narrowly.

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Quote: batleyrhino "Olpherts is Joe Vickery bad.'"

You've been right about him all along, Batley. Fair play. He's a genuine liability.

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Good day out up in Newcastle, kids were flag bearers so enjoyed it regardless.

Can’t even be ar$ed to get into the performance but Olpherts was a disgrace in every department. Not alone I know, but he should never wear a Leeds jumper again.

Rohan out of his depth, sooner he’s gone the better for me.

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For me that was a selection loss. We select Handley on the wing Hooley at FB; or Tindall wing and I think we win that game.

One thing that triggers me is rubbish defence and both edges were really fragile at times.

Oledski had his best game for a while though and McDonnell continues to impress me.

Smith had his hands tied in recruitment and tried to do the best he could with the budget he had and one or two have been good; but not the right selection for me again tonight.

Having said that our injury situation is savage again.

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