Despite 'effort' and 'guts' last night the bottom line was we were simply not good enough.

We played some of our best rugby all season last night yet saints never ready looked in trouble and you always felt they had an extra gear if they needed it.

That said, if we play like that for the rest of the season we have a decent chance of beating those in the relegation fight around us.

If we continue with the current halves we will be relegated IMO. Comfortably the worst pairing in the league.

I just don't see it. A top class half would save you from relegation I reckon, but there are several other positions you need to address before you even think about being competitive again.

I won't pretend I'm not enjoying your plight, but I always try to be honest and call it as I see it. I honestly don't think there is any position that you are completely sorted. The whole side is peppered with players who either just aren't good enough or who are still learning their craft.

The halves have long been at a point where even if mclelland comes in and doesn’t add much you’ve not lost anything, he’s an enthusiast defender if nothing else and his kicking game is undoubtedly going to be better.

Can't disagree.

Those thinking hastings or similar are our saviour are sadly mistaken. Very few of our current 17 would make it into the 17 of a top half team. Hurrell, Ava, Merrin, maybe Dwyer as a bench differential and that's about it.

That said, if we recruit well in the off-season we can make sure we are not relegation fodder next year and build from there.

There are no quick fixes from where we are currently.

They are really bad most of the time. Players on the winning team get higher marks irrespective of performance. Just stop reading it.

Agree, last nights team selection underlines everything wrong with this firstirst team setup, absolutely no accountability for shocking performance in previous weeks, in our case, all season. Couldnt believe all 3 of Myler, Suttcliffe and Ferres started last night after there previous efforts. If we get relegated, the club only has itself to blame, unfortunately us fans suffer aswel.

Suttcliffes the most un-natural halfback iv ever seen in my life, Mylers crap but you can atleast see he's a half, just a rubbish one, suttcliffes not even that good

Sutcliffes defence was also terrible, and also contributed to Newmans poor defence performance. Sutcliffe is not a terrible defender though, and for me it is entirely down to his arrogant, I have made it attitude. He knows he gets picked, simple as that.

We had a dig for 60 minutes but were way short in terms of quality application and clueless in attack.
Like others have said the likes of Ferres Sutcliffe Myler etc getting picked is a joke I'd much prefer our u19's getting game-time.
I do like the look of Ava and once again Merrin went well but that's not good enough.
Also how much longer can GH/KS delay a new Coaching set up and new signing(s)?
The squad and intrim Coach simply are nowhere near good enough

I have been very critical of a number of your posts this season mark about what you have said about JJB, ablett and a number of other signings but fair do's, a lot of those chickens have come home to roost.

Effort alone is not enough, we need actual quality.

Dropped two kicks dropped a couple off passes , passed straight into touch, looked awfull. Goldinggwas hung drawn and quartered for less, Sutcliffe too. People should stop blowing smoke up his arris, he has had one good game this year the rest injuried or average to crap.

People laughed at me for suggesting we sign Jordan Adbul, he is showing at London he is a natural half back and a natural footballer with an instinctive rugby brain. None of our pivotal players have that, only Cuthertson a prop looks a natural footballer.