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Quote: batleyrhino "Agreed, the trade at the moment is not sustainable mainly because so many clubs are unable to predict their next financial year with any degree of certainty.

The only way to grow the game in my view is by increasing the stability of the clubs in the premier competition and then growing the number of them over a number of years. If we lose one or two SL clubs, the playing strength of those remaining might increase slightly, but the overall participation and interest in the sport would decline and that could easily be a death knell for professional RL in this country.'"


Correct. 100%

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If we were to win the next 2 games, there could be a scenario where the way to be certain of keeping Leeds in 9th, would be for Huddersfield and Wakey to draw the round 23 game.
Has happened in football world cup group games, but a 0-0 in soccer is easier to "arrange" than a draw in RL.

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Quote: The Magic Rat "If we were to win the next 2 games, there could be a scenario where the way to be certain of keeping Leeds in 9th, would be for Huddersfield and Wakey to draw the round 23 game.
Has happened in football world cup group games, but a 0-0 in soccer is easier to "arrange" than a draw in RL.'"


If we win our next games I doubt that would be a scenario for either team. The points difference to Wakefield coul be much closer, and Huddersfields would still be much worse. Huddersfield need another two points minimum, and Wakefield need another four currently.

Of course Wakefield could beat us tonight, and all that ends anyway.

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Quote: batleyrhino "Delivering better entertainment is definitely a growth factor, but not the only one. Clubs need to consider alternative revenue streams and how they can maximise them. I get that Cas and Wakefield don't have the potential audience of Leeds (no one does) so it's not realistic to expect them to consistently get 12-15,000 through the gates, however they could both add another 1,000 which would be a huge increase in their income in % terms.

To take the discussion back to Franchising which was my original point, this would give the clubs enough financial certainty to properly invest in youth development and create the playing pool that would support their futures. At the moment precious few do this, and some don't even run an academy. We have to start by giving some certainty, this is what any business (sporting or otherwise) needs to be able to plan.'"


Clubs don't need franchising to invest in the future - surely franchising just makes clubs lazy. The best way of ensuring your long term future is to out-invest your competition. If you know you have a 5 year guaranteed position what is the encouragement to invest.

I get you can have a bad season with injuries etc. but which clubs have been relegated - have any of the bigger clubs that invest the most come close - not one.

Virtually every SL club has a youth development programme - they may not run reserve grade - that is what the Championship should be for

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Quote: Gotcha "If we win our next games I doubt that would be a scenario for either team. The points difference to Wakefield coul be much closer, and Huddersfields would still be much worse. Huddersfield need another two points minimum, and Wakefield need another four currently.

Of course Wakefield could beat us tonight, and all that ends anyway.'"
I agree it's a long shot. Would probably require us to win all 3 and Huddersfield to beat Cas and Wakey to beat Hull.

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cannot see us winning all 3, Sir Kev has said the playing camp need sorting. - Bad apples I guess

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If Leeds lose tonight - which I don't expect - then Wakey are safe in the top 8?

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Quote: Homer Simpson " Sir Kev has said the playing camp need sorting.'"


Credit to Sir Kev, I hadn't identified that playing with a deliberate affectation or exaggeration of style, especially of popular or outdated style, for ironic or humorous effect, was the cause of your problems.

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After our game with wakey

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Catalans POINTS 19 + 2 = 21
Salford H - WIN
Wigan A - LOSS

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Huddersfield - POINTS 19 + 2 = 21
Castleford A - LOSS
Wakefield H - WIN

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Wakefield POINTS 19 + 0 = 19
Hull H - LOSS
Huddersfield A - LOSS

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Leeds - POINTS 16 + 2 = 18
Widnes H - WIN
Salford A - LOSS ?

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Hull KR POINTS 13 + 4 = 17
Widnes A WIN
Warringon H LOSS
Hull A WIN

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Salford POINTS 12 + 2 = 14
Catalans A - LOSS
Leeds H - WIN

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Quote: Homer Simpson "After our game with wakey

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Catalans POINTS 19 + 2

I think thats all correct apart from I think we’ll win our remaining 2 and sneak into the 8s

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I think we are in the middle 8's now. I think Wakey will beat hull next week. If they do that would make them safe and nothing really to play for at Huddersfield the week after, meaning a Huddersfield victory.

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How can you predict us to lose against Salford in a must win game. We’ve been bad this year, but Salford have been worse.

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6
Wakefield POINTS 19 + 2 = 21
Hull H - WIN
Huddersfield A - LOSS

7
Catalans POINTS 19 + 2 = 21
Salford H - WIN
Wigan A - LOSS

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Huddersfield - POINTS 19 + 2 = 21
Castleford A - LOSS
Wakefield H - WIN

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Leeds - POINTS 16 + 2 = 18
Widnes H - WIN
Salford A - LOSS ?

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Hull KR POINTS 15 + 2 = 17
Warringon H LOSS
Hull A WIN

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Salford POINTS 12 + 2 = 14
Catalans A - LOSS
Leeds H - WIN

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Quote: Homer Simpson "6
Catalans POINTS 19 + 2

If wakey, Catalans and giants all finish on 21 then wakey would be 6th on points difference

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Quote: Tricky2309 "If wakey, Catalans and giants all finish on 21 then wakey would be 6th on points difference'"


Thanks. Will amend

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