So let's get this straight, you think the rfl promote James Child to high profile games to push some equality agenda. They then never tell anyone about this at all and don't make that information publicly available. Seems a likely scenario.

Is this person for real? In guessing it's someone trolling.,,

All people have questioned is whether the RFL have avoided dealing with the incompetence of Child due to a worry about how that could be perceived (mainly by idiots from the PC brigade like this Smokey chap)..... Call it homophobia/racist/discriminatory if it makes you feel better, but there is definitely a PR gain by having a 'diverse' workforce, and also a defence against any potential workplace tribunals - having a diverse workforce can be used as evidence you are not a racist/homophobic company should a disgruntled ex-employee pull the race/homophobic card in a tribunal - I'm sure you'll try say this doesn't happen (and in your make believe PC correct world maybe it doesn't) but in my world it most definitely does, having had to previously give evidence on a sham 'racism' claim.... Whether it plays any part in how the RFL deal with Child is another question, but having a gay referee is definitely a positive look for the RFL (though I 100% believe it doesn't even need to be - just like Keegan Hirst 'coming out' shouldn't have been a news worthy story) - in real life, most people don't give a toss about a persons sexuality, however idiots like Smokey (and those who make false claims of discrimination) have made it so organisations feel compelled to have 'one of each' to counter balance any accusations.

With the generally accepted consistent poor performances of Child, why shouldn't someone be able to ask the question as to why he's not been brought to task, and why he does still get a number of the showpiece games?

Your the only one linking his job to his sexuality. The questions asked have been is the failure to deal with his incompetence as a possible result of his sexuality. But you keep moving arguments to your looney agenda. Like I said, you do more harm than good for prejudices around the world. There is nobody on this thread more of a bigot than you.

100% agreed! This type of PC hysteria is what helps breed a culture of discrimination.

Spot on post, particularly the bottom part. People often accuse the RFL of "jobs for boys" saying their performance doesn't merit their position and no one bats an eyelid at this accusation. I question if one referee is benefitting from positive discrimination and the first few posts had people saying they were "uncomfortable" talking about it and the Defender of the Homosexuals Smokey TA screaming BIGOT BIGOT BIGOT at me.

He shown exactly why it could happen, because people like him try and treat minority groups with kid gloves on in the mistaken belief that is treating them equally. If they're are to be treated equally then someone should be as free to question their employment as freely as they'd question the employment of say a Middle Aged white heterosexual male......however you can't, you can't because people like Smokey say it's homophobic to do so.

Why do you keep going on them "promoting it". I never said they do and they don't have to for it to happen. In some of the examples given by others when a black or Muslim or female candidate has been picked ahead of another because they wanted that person for the skin colour/religion/gender they don't go out and get a 2 page spread in the The Sun saying "WE'VE HIRED A BLACK MAN!!!"

Hell even with the best intentions people can treat miniority groups differently sub-consciously, such as your treating them with kid gloves in the mistaken belief you're treating them equally.

Not at all

No. Nobody simply asked a question. Two people made the bigoted statement that he only got the games because of sexuality.

Where is this pr gain? Show me. Show me one time either the rfl or James child have publicly discussed his sexuality so they can gain PR.

Having a homosexual in the workforce in no way protects you from accusations of treating people in a homophobic way. It's no defence to go to tribunal and say oh it's ok we employ gays. If your HR department are telling you that it does. They are terrible at their job.

But why do they want a gay man refereeing that game. That is your assertion. That was your statement that James child was picked for Fridays game because he was gay.

You have yet to explain the benefit.


Is that you just have idiotic ideas about the law that makes you think this would somehow help the rfl? Is it because you think the rfl cannot discipline him because he is gay because you don't understand equality law?

Is it because you think that Steve Ganson who is now responsible for referees, like Jon sharp before him, are somehow subconsciously giving Child games?

It's a ludicrous assertion that his sexuality has any impact on which games he is given.

They don't need to discuss it, and in sure they don't want to, but the fact is, it puts them in a good light - having gay players/referees shows we are an inclusive sport. Do you not agree?

And having other employees of the same race/gender/sexuality who are not claiming discrimination absolutely can act as a piece of evidence in tribunal - I've seen it first hand.

In your opinion, do the past refereeing performances of James Child merit him being selected for so many big games? Do you feel his standard of refereeing is acceptable at SL level?

I suggest we all just leave this thread to Smokey TA, without the oxygen of attention he may regain some perspective and calm down.

We all get it, you are a warrior for the disadvantaged and slayer of bigots (as defined by you). By the way you are very free with your opinions, definitions, accusations and labelling of people who don't agree with your definitions etc, that is why I called you intolerant, not because you were fighting the good fight. But hey ho build yourself up as a hero of the oppressed if it makes you feel goo

Nope you and printer brought his sexuality in to it.

No question has been asked. The printer made the statement that Child of only gets the games he does because of his sexuality. You agreed. You even proudly stated that you wouldn't be so 'suttle'. You outright

Own your bigotry don't walk it back now it's being called out at least have the strength of character to stand behind it. You can tell you know you are wrong because even you are trying get to portray what you said as something different.




Own your words. You weren't 'suttle' there isn't nuance.

You couldn't be more right here. Like I said, there is no bigger Bigot on this thread than him, but feeding him just gives him the attention he craves.

And you have put it very well.

I just said I would leave it to not give you the attention you crave.

But it is funny how you quote the two posts from me and Printer, yet you miss the one immediately before it from Rhino Phil, which is what these posts were referring to. There the question asked from Rhino Phil, was how come he gets away with this incompetence match after match, and losing players respect.

I think you have hanged yourself with that one.