Less time spent on gimmicks might be a good start as well as getting the basics down cold.

Good to see you've been giving your crystal balls an enthusiastic rub again. Now you've told us we can all just give up.

Iv’e seen reserve squads selected who have played with more passion and commitment than that Leeds team did in the first half, it simply wasn’t good enough. Some players need to take a long hard look in the mirror. They made Wire look good.

You are correct, the competition is not decided in the first round. What I found worrying, as an independent observer, was Leeds lack of intensity and teamwork.

That’s an interesting view personally, I think your three quarters will be your downfall. Time will tell.

We got battered, thats what teams that get battered look like.

It will happen to every SL team this year, maybe even saints and they will all look like they lack intensity and teamwork when it happens.

The issue is we should be up for the first game. Everyone should be hyped and ready to go. The only things that are excusably lacking in the first couple of games is execution in attack and maybe a bit of confusion in defence with new players.

I'm not saying the season is done at all, but that really was a bad way to start the year. I'm sure Smith didn't want or expect that either.

We have space in the cap for a new left centre, Wardle was supposed to be it but he's gone to Wigan, I believe Gildart was targeted but he decided to stay in Aus. There doesn't seem to be many options knocking about for us, with our quota spots already filled, it seems slim pickings - I agree we are lacking a little there.

Nail on head and my thoughts exactly. Its not the defeat, its the manner of it that was the biggest concern and on the back of some woeful pre season performances. Fingers crossed it was a one off.

Ill be a bit concerned if there’s no reaction next week.

As for last night it will all be forgotten if we actually start to play next week and beyond

We also have Connor Wrench back at some point, who is, arguably, our best centre and who, if he can come back from his serious injury without too much deterioration of his basic abilities, will be one of the best centres in the league (not a particularly high bar admittedly).

Rohan explained a few weeks back, CJ had a back op end of last season, he’s a few weeks behind in fitness but is in full training. Expect to see him in the first reserves game, all being well

Terrible last night, but still think we’ve got a better squad than last season. My only position of some real concern is at FB. A really solid FB means Wire probably score 20 less last night…..

Let's not suddenly pretend Myler isn't a good full back. He has been outstanding for us in that position overall. He has had one off bad games in the past and then turned in man of the match performances in subsequent weeks and I'm sure he will again.

Thinking full back is the problem with how we're looking at centre right now is a little odd.

Most teams would struggle at centre with their two first choice centres out!
I just think pace and defensive security are very important from fullback. Myler has done a great job standing in, and adapting to what the team required. He’s still very useful to have around to contest nearly all the spine positions, but just think we should be aiming bit higher for first choice fullback. Admittedly we may never see a Webb or Hardaker again…!