I'm starting to think he is anyway.

Nobody calling a knee jerk yet or after very similar performances last year is everyone fearing the same?

I don't know how anyone can argue Agar isn't front and centre a large part of the problem. A lot of the squad is his. All of the selections are his. There's no sense of dynamism at all, and it just looks like a plodding coach picking fellow plodders to play a nothing style.

I still think it’s a bit knee jerk, we have got the players, its a combination of injuries and lack of confidence IMO. We had a few chances to win that game and we constantly dropped the ball or took a poor option.

I thought Sezer was a lot better than last week.

I tell you what though, ive not had a drink for over two years and im very tempted to go home warm up and open that bottle of Brandy ive got stashed, today has been the pits.

No excuse for that performance. Absolutely miles off where we need to be. That was an awful performance.

Cant single anyone out for praise or criticism. The whole team has to get it together quickly cos that was unacceptable.

I don't think the injuries can excuse that level of abject performance. This week was no better than last. Cats were missing 4 of their pack.

My feelings on Agar is the last year there was mitigation from many factors, this year he's had a preseason with a full squad and the side available should produce way better than that. Looks all very 2021 to me.

We did reach the semi finals in 2021 though, we are only 3 games in, a lot can change, but it needs to start next week

We 'reached the semi finals' from 5th. We beat a Wigan side praying for the season to end and in our first proper test Sts wiped the floor with us. This year we are supposed to be better - new halfbacks, fewer injuries and a full off season. Never mind competing with Sts, we look likely to be in another season where our peers are Wakefield, Toulouse and co.

Tough to take that one, considering they lost a forward for a HIA aswell as having quite a number missing for the game. An opportunity missed for sure. If agar is going to pick players out he needs to look at Sezer this week as that was very poor from him, I would genuinely be looking at bringing Sinfield in next week.

Im not sure about fewer injuries, we’ve had a mare with them so far.

As i say its round 3, if were languishing at the bottom end half way through the season ill be as concerned as anyone, im not overly concerned yet, i am however very very disappointed

Out attack does look clunky reminded me a bit of 2018/19 season tonight we looked clueless in opp 20 and hoped for a bit of magic from someone like Austin. I think Agar has too bite the bullet now we need too change our attack formation and see if anything changes I hope next week we have Fusitu'a & Newman back and I'd go for.

1. Fusitu'a (Walker has been steady away but I think he kills our attack & with Myler out I don't wanna over play him especially after last couple of seasons)
2. Tindall
3. Newman
4. Broadbent
5. Handley
6. Austin
7. Sezer
8. Oledzki
9. Leeming
10. Tetevano
11. Sutcliffe
12. Gannon
13. Smith

Subs
Dwyer
Prior
Thompson
Donaldson

I think Fusitu'a would add strike at full back, he probably doesn't have a passing game but neither does Walker and Fusitu'a coming out the back of a shape in the opp 20 would be more dangerous imo. He's a very big man too stop out wide. Tindall has done well for me and I like how he plays he's pretty safe under kicks and quick and a decent weapon too have on wing if he has a decent Centre. Newman we know what he brings just need him fit. Sutcliffe made couple of breaks tonight but some poor errors as well Broadbent deserves a shot and with Mellor getting a bad knock we could use Sutcliffe in Second row with Bentley still banned & Martin in Oz.

Im not sure bringing a teenager who hasn’t played first grade into a team lacking confidence will do anyone any good.

We have new halfbacks, and lost a pivot, ot mightvtake a few games for them to click.

Weve not hot the luxury of being able to drop s load of players

Froze my ass for two weeks and all for nothing. Total cr*p tonight. I know we are missing quality players, but what is clear at the moment is that there is a really big drop off in terms of replacements. I don't think I can take another week of Briscoe & Sutty in the centres. For those old enough to recall they both have the attacking threat of Dave Heslewood in his prime.

Those replacements keep getting re-signed and then picked at the drop of the hat. Meanwhile the likes of Broadbent, who did a great job for a tyro last year, sits on the sidelines.

I really think a lot of the problem with Agar is he is so risk averse in selections and gameplans. There's no sense of adventure or fight, and when things go wrong the team collectively curls up in a ball with everyone looking for someone else to sort things out rather than take responsibility themselves.

I've no doubt our attack will look a lot better with Fusitu'a and Newman back, Bentley will help etc. But shouldn't we expect more from the 17 selected than that?

I think that’s unfair, last year bar a few games against saints thats the exact opposite of how we played with a lot of adversity aswell.

Weve been very poor for the last few games but im not writing them off yet