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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "Mark you think Sutcliffe and Mellor as props wouldve changed the momentum of the game? Seriously? At least Donaldson and Jared play as middles but both are too small.

Gannon was due to be on the bench but had to withdraw and McLelland had to fill in as the cupboard was bare. If the 2nd half had panned out better it wouldve been ideal to give Callum 20 mins but we couldnt get the ball and was just getting rolled downfield. Agar had little choice to use his subs rotating his middles.

McLelland wasnt unused he did get on but very late and the game was over.'"

Im saying it would have given more scope for rotating that pack & both Sutty/Mellor a much bigger fwds than O'Conner & Donaldson.
The in game management by the Coach was poor as was our defence the excuses dont change that.
Also the discipline was woeful before they got a roll on something else Agar has failed to address.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Im saying it would have given more scope for rotating that pack & both Sutty/Mellor a much bigger fwds than O'Conner & Donaldson.
The in game management by the Coach was poor as was our defence the excuses dont change that.
Also the discipline was woeful before they got a roll on something else Agar has failed to address.'"


You're blaming the coach for the high tackles? Its Rugby League mate not a punch and judy show. The coach doesnt control every movement or action. Jeez.

The lack of discipline early on may have took a lot of juice out of the team allowing Catalans to get on a roll later on dont you think?

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We just can’t manage to get a fully fit squad/players not banned on the field and it costs us against the best sides. We win that comfortably imo with Tet Oledsjki Martin playing imo.

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Disappointing to lose, but we can hold our heads up that with a battered and knackered team we have taken it to the league leaders two weeks in a row.

Plenty to be positive about, and plenty to improve on.

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Quote: Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! "You're blaming the coach for the high tackles? Its Rugby League mate not a punch and judy show. The coach doesnt control every movement or action. Jeez.

The lack of discipline early on may have took a lot of juice out of the team allowing Catalans to get on a roll later on dont you think?'"

The discipline in general from this Team is poor some of the high tackles wre lazy poor technique ,the 6 again the mothing off & offsides should be better the discipline & self control come from the Coach down.
Tony Smith would fine players for poor discipline Graham Murray instilled a toighness but our discipline was good in the main.
The odd high tackle will always happen as will the odd offside etc but were well on our way to 20 penalties plus that should be unacceptable & something the Coach addresses no?

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With the team we had out there our only chance of winning was to speed up the play the ball and move their forwards around the pitch.
Once you let a pack and the power of their backline get on top you`re done.
Our forwards were far too lightweight.
Sutcliffe isn`t a half back and apart from Newman who didn`t do too much wrong we have no pace in our backline.
Smith the best Leeds forward and Donaldson once again punching above his weight.
Second game running Kasiano who Leeds could have signed the impact Catalans needed.
Still think if we`re picking another winger to play opposite Handley it has to be Luke not Tom

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Mik, Tet, King and Martin definitely improve the pack, and both our hookers are knackered.

We still need either Lui or McLelland in at 6 to guide that right hand side.

Great to see Harry get a game under his belt. Think we’re missing a fit Handley this year too.

The enforced rest won’t do Mik any harm.

Assuming Sezer is about done there is still a wee bit of recruitment to sort out.

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Didn't get to see the game live but just watched it. Obvious to me. We had two props, when at full strength we'd have five. Would have won both games with a close to full strength side. Frustrating thing is that doesn't appear to be a possibility this side of hell freezing over.

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Agars presser seemed very honest and he seemed rather annoyed at the second half performance especially the discipline

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Pleased with Agars presser, he nailed everything imo and didnt hide behind excuses/reasons. We all know the sides missing players and most are overworked, but some of that stuff in the second half was amateur, Agar seemed as angry as iv seen him which suggests he felt the same.

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He also said that maybe they (the coaching staff) we’re accountable, I like Agar seems an honest guy

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Yep good honest press conference. The only thing i would disagree with is that the 2nd half disipline cost us and we started the game ok. We didnt. The 1st 15 mins was awful giving restart sets and high tackles aplenty and gave Catalans a lot of early ball which led partly to the 2nd half i thought. We did too much defending early on.

We then got to grips with the game for the remainder of the half and played some lovely stuff. 2nd half was probably worst half of the season???

Pleased he said he had to rotate his middles due to the obvious workload on their shoulders. There are people on here whos views i respect and I believe know the game better than most but when we lose get a little silly for an hour or 2 and then go back to their sensible views again.

Too many errors, too many penalties, 50% completion rate, poor poor kicking game. I suspect players like Gale, Dwyer, Sutcliffe, Leeming and even Prior will not be enjoying the review this morning at Kirkstall.

A self inflicted loss.

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regardless we are moving forward well.
a good 6, a winger and we will be challenging sooner rather than later.

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Quote: tad rhino "regardless we are moving forward well.
a good 6, a winger and we will be challenging sooner rather than later.'"


Totally agree, bar the Hull KR theres been a lot to take out of the performances, I just hope we get to see some kind of first choice squad for some games, we’ve hardly seen Tetetevano but what we have seennshows hell add a lot to the team.

Good to see hurrell get some sort of form back, hes got his faults but still provides a lot of threat

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Share Agar's frustration with the indiscipline, but I do think some of the penalties stem from the fact last night at least we had a team of Middleweights taking on Heavyweights. After a certain point everything becomes a struggle and mistakes get made. I'm probably being too generous to the players, but overall the signs are positive.

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