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just my opinion but with the floods at kirstall training ground it must be a bit of a ball ache training here there and not having the luxuries of what they where used to. sooner they get the training ground sorted the better cant be easy. anybody heard when its gonna be sorted and g4 pitch refitted .

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Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "Hall looks shot. Can't catch, and is way too big for a winger.'"


Of all the back five, he's my main concern. I reckon he and we have been lucky that many of our opponents have opted to kick to Handley. That won't last, unless RH's form picks up and the results could be very embarrassing.

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Quote: Clearwing "Of all the back five, he's my main concern. I reckon he and we have been lucky that many of our opponents have opted to kick to Handley. That won't last, unless RH's form picks up and the results could be very embarrassing.'"

The alleged enforced break due to injury might be the kick up the backside he needs. Hopefully, he won't waste that time experimenting with his hair dye solutions.

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Hall's inability to catch is because the training ground got flooded.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Hall's inability to catch is because the training ground got flooded.'"


That was only so we could practice bringing on the sub! icon_wink.gif

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He seems to have lost a bit of pace as well. All well and good having nice footwork, but you gotta get through the gap

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didn't look too slow to me at Catalans a few weeks ago. if its in regards to him being caught by Dawson watch it back, he thinks he is been chased by the inside defender only and doesn't know Dawson is behind him, he was cruising.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "didn't look too slow to me at Catalans a few weeks ago. if its in regards to him being caught by Dawson watch it back, he thinks he is been chased by the inside defender only and doesn't know Dawson is behind him, he was cruising.'"


I agree. Shocking complacency though.

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I think the loss of Peacock, Leuluai and Sinfield on the field cannot be understated. I think the players mentioned have had to take on extra responsibility in addition to playing their natural game. Can be difficult.

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FFS, how long are we going to bemoan the loss of Sinfield and Peacock. They've gone, move on and rebuild. That's what the coach and team are trying to do. No amount of moaning will bring back retired / defected players

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Re Watkins, I watched the GF again the other day and I thought his biggest problem was being asked to defend third or even fourth man in a lot of the time. That means a big tackling load, which must dent his attack. I can't think of a similarly classy attacking player being asked to do so much donkey work.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Re Watkins, I watched the GF again the other day and I thought his biggest problem was being asked to defend third or even fourth man in a lot of the time. That means a big tackling load, which must dent his attack. I can't think of a similarly classy attacking player being asked to do so much donkey work.'"


It's happened throughout the Burrow on the pitch at hooker era. Either Moon is 4th man in if McGuire and Burrow are both on the left side. But then McGuire usually alternates sides during games so either Watkins or Sinfield would be as far in as 4th, with them alternating themselves between 3rd/4th man in presumably so not to put all of the burden on Sinfield who whilst can do large tackling numbers, shouldn't have been averaging 27 a game the last few seasons AND expected to lead the team round at HB in attack.

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The whole Sinfield-McGuire-Burrow axis required compromises to the team shape that most teams never have to make. We'll probably have to continue to make the same compromise until Burrow retires. I can't see anyone playing a similar role off the bench in the future who can't defend.

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Quote: Stanley30 "He seems to have lost a bit of pace as well. All well and good having nice footwork, but you gotta get through the gap'"


He's had poor pace for 3-4 years now, but that's been offset by rock solid catching under the high ball, and running the ball back well when we're camped on our line.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "The whole Sinfield-McGuire-Burrow axis required compromises to the team shape that most teams never have to make. We'll probably have to continue to make the same compromise until Burrow retires. I can't see anyone playing a similar role off the bench in the future who can't defend.'"


Ash Goulding? Lilley already does?

The coaches seem to like to be able to bring on an attacking player late on and it certainly works well for Brisbane, Queensland and Australia
It only becomes a problem when that player plays a full game as burrow has done at hooker recently
As long as the impact player only plays around 30 mins it is more of a benefit than a hinderance
In future when a hooker is injured then the dummy half role should be done by someone like stevie ward or keinhorst who can do the defensive work

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