Are you being for real with that? Or just winding us up?

Bellamy created their success, he brought the team together, developed them, made them winners.

McDermott in his own words, is an incredibly lucky coach to get to coach these players. The winning culture was already ingrained long before he was appointed. These players were already winners.

Surely you didn't really mean to compare our guy with a world class coach like Bellamy?

I am not advocating getting shut of BMD,but can someone please explain the terms of his contract?

Overpaid!

An ''innovative first in world sport'' according to GH.

I think essentially it's just a rolling one year contract because GH can't decide on mcdermott's shelf life.

If next year goes poorly we'll part company.

There is much speculation over in Wakey that Gary H has his eye on Paul Aiton. Him and Kath are trying to put together a player swap deal.

Aiton is hard as nails , a great defender and all round worker but he is not a player that can run a game.

However the way Sinfield played in that role last night, Aiton would be a massive improvement.

Seem to have a 3rd season syndrome

Smith's 3rd year - 3rd place, eliminated first week of the playoffs, CC semi defeat.
McClennen - 4th place, lost GF qualifier, CC final defeat, WCC defeat.
McDermott - 3rd place, lost GF qualifier, CC 5th round, WCC defeat.

Changing coach will, IMO, have absolutely zero effect unless it is accompanied by an acknowledgement that now is the time to start refreshing the forward pack in particular.

You've changed your tune since last week, but this year was the year to start refreshing the forward pack, unless players like Amor, Taylor and Walmsley are magically available again. Taylor was the second best prop on display last night, by the way.

Amir remains a big puzzle. Would love to know why he was allowed to leave in favour of Kirke and/or Moore

If we'd signed taylor and walmsley our pack would be sorted.

What was Bailey trying to do to Tomkins?

It looked like the kind of behaviour one would expect in prison where the bigger inmate is about to sodomise and rape the smaller one and then tear him a new one.

Very strange and embarrassing indeed.

So if we win it's because of the players but if we lose it's because of the coach?

Suppose I best not mention the salary cap irregularities either?

Congratulations.

You've figured out how Southstander works.

Remember when people were telling us Tony Smith wouldn't make it because he was too much of a disciplinarian and the players didn't like him?

What's the relevance with that Andy and the post from AJC?

Smith did make it, and had a group of excellent winning players that continued to keep winning for another coach after him, still before McDermott arrived at the club.

The relevance being that even great players require coaching, be it a change in structure or simply a kick up the backside. Coaching a proven squad can be more difficult than assembling a squad of their own. In big Keith's book he spoke about the players relationship with Bluey & how that went sour in the end (leading to Bluey's resignation). McD has had the same amount of time in the hot seat, delivering an identical return, yet isn't given anywhere near the same amount of credit as his predecessor. He still seemingly has the dressing room too