The stupid thing is if we'd executed a little bit better and Lunt had kept hold of the ball, o brien hadn't scored a freak try, then even after a horrible 15 minutes we could have competed.

So do you, as a fully functioning adult, seriously think like bfdbull1979 (I sincerely hope that's not his year of birth) that it is unacceptable for any team to ever be better than Leeds?
Seriously? As a grown-up adult?

It's fine. Just as it's fine for passionate supporters to not think it's fine.

LTID is above such things.

What a guy!

Are you serious?

Its sport, so its always OK not to be the best team at some time or other. What's not Ok is putting up p*ss poor performances when you can do much better - especially at home.

I think unacceptable is the wrong word, i can accept when a team is better than the one i support but you should never be satisfied that they are.

So what you're saying is "do you think it is ok to accept mediocrity?"

Well I'm not going to make any apologies when I say NO. I don’t want to believe that there is any team better than Leeds. That’s what makes me a Leeds fan. But then again your loyalties have shifted somewhat in recent years haven’t they?

I will always believe that we are a better club than any other because that’s the mentality of a supporter. I have no “God given right” to think that we will win all the time but that’s what I hope will happen.
If you want to accept the fact that there’s nothing wrong at Leeds then that’s your God give right but I see a Championship winning side consistently underperforming. You obviously see it differently.

I love watching Rugby League and you have no God given right to tell me how to “enjoy it for the sport (YOU think) it’s supposed to be”

From where I stand, you are Dewsbury fan with a confused user name trying to troll the Leeds board.

As an outsider,love Leeds or hate Leeds,the style of play for me has always been good to watch.The last few games I have seen,(Hull at the K.C. ,Wigan and Wire on the telly) it seems Leeds have been steamrollered from the beginning of the game.
Is this because the coach has no answer to this tactic,or indeed some of your squad are aging? No doubt someone will say I am talking crap,but as it was said on Catchphrase,"Say what you see."

Nobody is telling you how to watch anything. And i am certainly not ABOVE feelings of irritation as G1 suggests, yes I am primarily a Dewsbury fan but I have been around on this board for nearly ten years and that isn't going to change.

My point is that some Leeds fans expect to win, every time, and whine like schoolchildren when they either don't win by plenty or don't win at all. I grew up going to games I expected to lose, and took pleasure from either winning, or even just competing.

I was able to enjoy last nights game as a result, I bet you didn't.

Some fair points loiner re-Some expecting to win every game and i'd guess most if not all of those started following us in 04 or at the start of 07.
However there's nowt wrong imo from expecting to compete every week and there's nowt wrong in questioning the Coaches and Players when they churn out the dross like against Wigan ,St's and the 1st 30 minutes like last night.
I thought we did ok after the 1st 30 minutes but the start was disgraceful for that team who are capable and should be showing much better win lose or draw.

This isn't really aimed at anyone with anything cogent to say. But as I type this there is a thread describing Sinfield as a defensive weak link and Peacock as a spent force, a thread advocating the entire youth team be drafted in, a McD out thread, a waste of money thread and the Burrow in thread.
Need I say more?

No, you really don't.

Amusing as your gormless prattle is on a wet Saturday morning, this season so far has been a great disappointment, so if it's all the same to you, in best Danny tradition.....Jog On

Bless. As coherent as usual Billy. Rough night? I liked the gormless. Made you sound almost convincing.

But that's the same for wigan fans, for saints, for the gans of any big club. If they aren't competing, there is drive to make sure they are.

You can't just accept mediocrity, that's ridiculous.

The only thing that's not ok is when Leeds (or insert the name of any other club) are not as good as they can be. There will always be a turnover of who is the best at any given time, that's the nature of sport, but you should always be striving to be the best you can be.

At the moment, for a number of reasons, Leeds are not the best they can be, therefore no one associated with the club should be satisfied with where we are.