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Quote: leicester_rhino "Surprised that given this news (and I assume he's going to be our frontline 9 next season), that we haven't seen McShane all that much in the latter half of the season.'"


Team selections this season are about winning games this season, not preparing players for 2012.

The best balance to the side in the closing part of this season has been Sinfield and McGuire in the halves, Buderus at hooker and Burrow operating off the bench.

To include McShane, you'd have to leave one of those four out of the 17 IMO and I don't see how doing that would strengthen the side and give it the best chance of winning the next game.

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Good news glad to see mcshane signing a new deal

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Quote: G1 "But seriously............

Will that be his legacy then? Rather than slightly underwhelming overall as a player he's hypnotised our fanbase to such an extent that any success achieved by McShane or Hood will be solely down to showering next to Buderus, so awe inspiring is he.'"


Who knows.....

Maybe Grand Final 2011 winner, maybe even Harry Sunderland winner?
Maybe neither

The old saying of 'you dont know what you've got till its gone' springs to mind. 4 year deals for our 2 reserve hookers tells me that not only is DB going, but its unlikely he'll be replaced. That worries me as I don't think either McShane or Hood is ready for a full season at 9. Hope I'm proved wrong.

You'll have to overcome you dislike of all things antipodean to see just what DB brings to the team. He has been in exceptional form this year - just a shame the rest of his pack colleagues have been so inconsistent. His anticipated departure is a big loss in my opinion.

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AJC ,there were similar fears when Diskin was thrown in at the deep end when Mears departed and we know how that turned out.
I have no doubts both will add something to the team/squad and we also have the option (although i prefer 6,7,9and 13 to stay in their places) of putting RB in there for stints.

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Quote: rhinoms "AJC ,there were similar fears when Diskin was thrown in at the deep end when Mears departed and we know how that turned out'"


That is a very go................................flagging another overseas signing that cried off home.

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Quote: rhinoms "AJC ,there were similar fears when Diskin was thrown in at the deep end when Mears departed and we know how that turned out.
I have no doubts both will add something to the team/squad and we also have the option (although i prefer 6,7,9and 13 to stay in their places) of putting RB in there for stints.'"


To be fair Diskin was very average until TS came in, and encouraged him to run from DH more. It took him a good couple of years before he started looking like the player of 2004. I'd like to see both of them given a chance next year but I just hope they're given a decent run in the team and people accept that they will need time to improve.

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Quote: rhinoms "AJC ,there were similar fears when Diskin was thrown in at the deep end when Mears departed and we know how that turned out.
I have no doubts both will add something to the team/squad and we also have the option (although i prefer 6,7,9and 13 to stay in their places) of putting RB in there for stints.'"


Absolutely, hope one or the other (preferably both!) prove me wrong.

I know I shouldn't rise to G1's bait but to ridicule Buderus' input to the team - in a year which has average at best so far - is hugely disappointing from some-one who clearly knows a bit about the game. Southstanders own player of the season poll has him as the best forward for 2011!

No wonder Keith thinks there's some tools on here

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Quote: AJC "Who knows.....

Maybe Grand Final 2011 winner, maybe even Harry Sunderland winner?
.'"

Coz if you want that you have to spend big bucks on Aussies don't you?

It would be nice to see Buderus achieve those levels. It would remind me of when we last had a hooker who truly was a dominant player within the team.

Quote: AJC "The old saying of 'you dont know what you've got till its gone' springs to mind.'"
Quite. I do miss Matt Diskin,

Quote: AJC "4 year deals for our 2 reserve hookers tells me that not only is DB going, but its unlikely he'll be replaced. That worries me as I don't think either McShane or Hood is ready for a full season at 9. Hope I'm proved wrong.'"

It doesn't worry me in the slightest and we won't know whilst ever there are ageing Aussies who really don't want to be here other than as a means of topping up a pension blocking their career path.

Quote: AJC "You'll have to overcome you dislike of all things antipodean to see just what DB brings to the team. He has been in exceptional form this year - just a shame the rest of his pack colleagues have been so inconsistent. His anticipated departure is a big loss in my opinion'"
I think you've overstated his contribution. He's been good to very good. We'll perform to the same level after he's gone as a team but sadly I think it will be a while before we perform, as a team, to the levels we reached before he came.

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Quote: AJC "Absolutely, hope one or the other (preferably both!) prove me wrong.

I know I shouldn't rise to G1's bait but to ridicule Buderus' input to the team - in a year which has average at best so far - is hugely disappointing from some-one who clearly knows a bit about the game. Southstanders own player of the season poll has him as the best forward for 2011!

No wonder Keith thinks there's some tools on here'"

Interesting, you use a poll on Southstander.com to support your argument then agree with Senior who derided the posters on Southstander.com as tools. Even more interesting, you're posting on Southstander.com and implying agreement with Senior's opinions.

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Whilst I don't agree fully with G1 on DB. I think he is a very good player and offers something to the team. Although I do agree that we won't ever see the best of hood and mcshane with buderus blocking there development, and not concerned by his departure, quite happy for them to get there chance

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Quote: Omar Little "According to some of the "negative tools" on here McShane was going to leave because of his treatment by McDermott...the fact that McShane said the opposite in the press wasn't good enough to dispel this...so is a 4 year deal???'"


Maybe McDermott's going - I'm a positive tool.

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Quite. I do miss Matt Diskin,

It doesn't worry me in the slightest and we won't know whilst ever there are ageing Aussies who really don't want to be here other than as a means of topping up a pension blocking their career path.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but it was Disko who reneged on his contract. Now he's injured and his business interests are of far greater importance to him than playing for the Bulls.

Leeds let Disko go at the right time & his season has proved GH correct

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the future bright the future at 9 is Mcshane and hood

cannot help wondering where NE is?

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I wonder who G1 will have the knives out for next season ?

Kirke might need to have very very broad shoulders and an extremely tough carapice icon_biggrin.gif

Good news both hookers signed ...

Burrow will never make a first choice starter in the role....but interchange dummy half from the bench is still his most effective position.

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I anounced this weeks ago and that Buderus had been granted his release but dont think anybody believed me

The contracts start in november so theyre contracted till 2016

Personally I rate buderus and have to say he has definately had an imput into Hoods developemnt to the point that I think you can see in Hoods game they play in very similar way I dont think hes had as much influence on Mcshane though he was older when DB came to the club and had already had a couple of years with the first team as he was signed when DB arrived

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