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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance. There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. :wink:[/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg



Quote: Judder Man "Bluey's Leeds are getting a reputation now for playing too much Thugby, its only a matter of time before every team in superleague will react to it.'"


Here comes another idiot - they're coming thick and fast at the moment. Can't you press your special button Mr Field?

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No. Much simpler to just ask them to back up their dip opinions with facts - they go away then.

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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance. There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. :wink:[/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg



Quote: McLaren_Field "And yet the disciplinary records do not show this.

I've had the same thing said to me about Leeds on several occasions and the answer is always the same - show me the evidence of this - and the fact is that Leeds do not have more players in front of the disciplinary committee than any other club in SL, which you would surely expect if they are a team of thugs ?

Could it be that your, and others, opinions are wrong ?'"


You're doing him a disservice offering this a sensible and well thought out response.

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We gave the lad a standing ovation didn't we? Whilst also sticking up for our young lad whose tackle was perfectly legal (Abletts wasnt!).

Hope Burgess and Peacock are ok are can take part at Wembley.

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Quote: rhinoms "Complete bollox and we are far from having a Hooper or a Matautia or Nickle
Thats why Leeds are next to the bottom of the fair plays index. Also the difference with Hooper/Matautia and Nickle is that they got dealt with by the disciplinary, where as the likes of Webb, Senior and Bailey get away with it.
If you also bother to look at the RL's disciplinary index, you will find Leeds are serial offenders and have the worst record than any club in all the 3 competions.
Like as said before Bluey's is condoning "Thugby" and pushing the boundaries of sportmanship, its only a matter of time before opposition players react to it and fans glorify it..........Mintball.

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Quote: Judder Man "Thats why Leeds are next to the bottom of the fair plays index. Also the difference with Hooper/Matautia and Nickle is that they got dealt with by the disciplinary, where as the likes of Webb, Senior and Bailey get away with it.
If you also bother to look at the RL's disciplinary index, you will find Leeds are serial offenders and have the worst record than any club in all the 3 competions.
Like as said before Bluey's is condoning "Thugby" and pushing the boundaries of sportmanship, its only a matter of time before opposition players react to it and fans glorify it..........Mintball.'"



rlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.phprl

Click the link, put two dates in the boxes (I did 01/01/10 to 13/08/10) put Superleague in the "league" box and see what comes up.

Then come back and try and justify the statement that I've highlighted in bold.

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Quote: rugbyleague88 "I don't think the challenge on Burgess was bad, just unlucky. The challenge from Ablett on Tomkins was bad but accidental. I think this is the view of a lot of Leeds supporters, so whats your point?'"



No way was the Ablett "challenge" accidental, he knew what he was doing .

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Quote: Gaslight "His point is the fact Leeds fans cheered & chanted when Tomkins was injured and when St Helens players get injured its fine, but tonight there's a lot of Leeds fans complaining Cas fans chanted "there's only one Johnny Walker" it's an utter disgrace etc etc, he's pointing out the irony in that fact
Nail on head mate.

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Quote: McLaren_Field "rlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.phprl

Click the link, put two dates in the boxes (I did 01/01/10 to 13/08/10) put Superleague in the "league" box and see what comes up.

Then come back and try and justify the statement that I've highlighted in bold.'"


Why are you filtering on selective dates, just use the Leeds comparative. If you look at ALL the clubs, there disciplinary in most cases heavily weighted when the oppostion is Leeds. So there is a common dominator here that Leeds come up with the Thugby game.

This obviously endorsed by the Leeds position in the fair play index...........which you have nicely managed not to respond too, and this being a Leeds Message Board will never accept comment and criticism.......on the similar mind set of "I hope other clubs have injuries" Bluey.

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Quote: red chilli "Nasty for Burgess tonight .

However when Carl Ablett took out Sam Tomkins with his illegal challenge you Leeds fans were chanting " Yorkshire , Yorkshire , Yorkshire", boot on the other foot now , however tonight's was an accident , still not nice though is it, maybe something to think about for you.'"


I never for one second though Tomkins was hurt which is the big difference. I would like to think if he had been laid on a stretcher that the majority of Leeds fans would have cut out the antics.

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Quote: darwoo11 "I never for one second though Tomkins was hurt which is the big difference. I would like to think if he had been laid on a stretcher that the majority of Leeds fans would have cut out the antics.'"



Thats like saying if I shot someone and was on target I would be full of remorse, but if I shot someone and missed, thats alright then.

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Quote: Judder Man "Thats like saying if I shot someone and was on target I would be full of remorse, but if I shot someone and missed, thats alright then.'"


All I said was if Tomkins had been injured along the lines of how Burgess is true Leeds rugby fans would have represented the club well and not carried on!

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ignore him mate, he's just a deluded retarted jealous idiot who has yet to back up his allegations in his first post

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Quote: red chilli "Nasty for Burgess tonight .

However when Carl Ablett took out Sam Tomkins with his illegal challenge you Leeds fans were chanting " Yorkshire , Yorkshire , Yorkshire", boot on the other foot now , however tonight's was an accident , still not nice though is it, maybe something to think about for you.'"


I know there are some brain deads roaming around Hull, this happens after years of interbreeding - this I can make some allowances for but you have stepped out of the realms of the plain stupid and into a whole new dimension of stupidity with this post.

When Ablett took out Tomkins he was reckless and clumsy but Tomkins was immediately back on his feet with no visible injury – in fact he was involved in the play from the resulting penalty.

Burgess was out for the count and, although he has sustained a severe facial injury the initial impact looked much worse. For a time he was catatonic and I, like many others were genuinely worried for his safety.

By comparing these two incidents proves that you have little or know knowledge of this game and has only brought to the surface your petty and small minded hatred of a far superior city.

You are pathetic and infantile but I still pity you, you live in Hull – you will never have as good of a life as the rest of the population of this great land and the sad thing is you don’t even realise it.

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Quote: Judder Man "Why are you filtering on selective dates, just use the Leeds comparative. If you look at ALL the clubs, there disciplinary in most cases heavily weighted when the oppostion is Leeds. So there is a common dominator here that Leeds come up with the Thugby game.'"



I simply selected the current year, January to date because you assert that Leeds have played like thugs recently, the current year should be a long enough period to prove your assertion, but, erm, it doesn't does it ?

In fact, it proves the opposite.



Quote: Judder Man "This obviously endorsed by the Leeds position in the fair play index...........which you have nicely managed not to respond too, and this being a Leeds Message Board will never accept comment and criticism.......on the similar mind set of "I hope other clubs have injuries" Bluey.'"



Its a random and ultimately meaningless assessment by a statto with a bit of time on his hands, its here for anyone who cares to waste a few minutes browsing rlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id, you'll notice that Leeds are far from being the worst culprits for conceding "technical penalties" and likewise far from being the worst culprits for conceding "misconduct penalties", in fact all clubs in SL are fairly evenly matched right across the board - its only when the statto applies an arbitary score to each offence that he manages to come up with his daft league table which does nothing to prove your point that Leeds play an especially dirty brand of rugby - check the quantity of offences on that table, there isn't much to separate all clubs and certainly nothing to make any one stand out from the rest.

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