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Speak to Furners son, he plays for Stanningley, he is a good kid, lots of his mates are players at Stanningley, it's well known at that club what went wrong. thats the story coming out from the players

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KS inherited a hell of a job trying to undo 4 years or so of rubbish recruitment.

He was the best leader and captain this club has ever had. Certainly not perfect but you would expect him to have a firm idea of what success at Leeds needs to look like.

The reality is that it’ll take time for changes to take effect and time for the promising young players to mature.

It can’t be the case that we’re going to break into the top 5 as soon as we win a game, and then everybody at the whole club needs sacking when we lose a game.

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The sooner we can get out of panic mode the better. We need to be able to plan recruitment if we're going to avoid ongoing mistakes.

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Quote: Brodie123 "Ask Furner who picked the team, his team sheet was sent to Sinfield on Fridays, it was returned with a tick against the name or a cross, make your own mind up who picked the team, but my money is not on Agar.
Tonight we was pathetic the whole team did not turn up, we were out fought by a team who is supposed to be worse than us, yet the last two games between us they have turned us over.
It seems we move one step forward and two backwards, tonight we got what we deserved, nowt. We had no structure, no leadership nothing, tonight when I left half the team was going to the long bar, they were laughing and joking, unbelievable performance both on and off the pitch. It's time the whole structure was changed, GH has to show leadership, the cull starts at the top, Gone it has to be Agar and his side kick Sinfield. Which future coach would want a troll sat on your shoulder looking at every move you make, he has to go, Director of rugby, he couldn't direct cars in and out of the carpark. For the sake of the club and his legend status he has to go.'"


Actually we beat Hull KR the last time we played them.

As for the rest of your diatribe about Sinfield, give over, the club has been to n this spiral long before he came back last year.

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Quote: KaeruJim "KS inherited a hell of a job trying to undo 4 years or so of rubbish recruitment.

He was the best leader and captain this club has ever had. Certainly not perfect but you would expect him to have a firm idea of what success at Leeds needs to look like.

The reality is that it’ll take time for changes to take effect and time for the promising young players to mature.

It can’t be the case that we’re going to break into the top 5 as soon as we win a game, and then everybody at the whole club needs sacking when we lose a game.'"


Brodie has an agenda against Sinfield for whatever reason, you will see the same stuff posted after every bad game we have. And unsurprisingly not anything after the last 2 games we've won.

Anyway after watching the game back I thought Lunt added a lot of structure I would start him next week, Ava was very good also

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The team culture clearly fell to bits while BM was still here. 2017 wouldn't have helped - just look at some of the players in that team who won medals and probably thought they were superstars.

The squad was rotten to the core before Sinfield came back. He's made some poor decisions but he's also made some tough calls on coaches and players. Right now we need him to stay ruthless.

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Lunt should definitely start. He's not an impact player and he'll only have an influence if he plays big minutes. Dwyer's the opposite.

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This so called "team" simply didn't turn up to play tonight.Dreadful performance by all.
I do not blame Agar one bit,he didn't coach them to produce that dross.
This may upset some on here but one BIG weakness is Hurrell,he cannot read a defensive play,utter rubbish

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We should have let Parcel go in order to get Merrin. Garbutt is exactly the kind of prop we need. A middle unit of Ava, Garbutt and Merrin, would be as good as any in the league.

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Quote: Lanzarote Rhino "This so called "team" simply didn't turn up to play tonight.Dreadful performance by all.
I do not blame Agar one bit,he didn't coach them to produce that dross.
This may upset some on here but one BIG weakness is Hurrell,he cannot read a defensive play,utter rubbish'"


Agree with that

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Quote: christopher "Agar got the team selection wrong but, the players have to take some responsibility, myler dropping that ball from the kick off is inexcusable we were just getting some momentum and for all Hull Jr fans getting giddy their defence is nothing to shout about we could have come back at that point.'"

I didnt say it was all Agars fault, thought the ' dumb penaltys and decisions, just terrible in every area' and the players attitudes comments int the very post you quoted made it pretty clear i wasnt putting all the blame on Agar, the players were a disgrace last night bar 1 or 2, but his team selection was wrong, no two ways about it. My feelings on Myler are no secret, Awful player.

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Myler is truly horrendous. The quicker he's replaced the better

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Garbutt 192m, more than both of your starting props combined. Outstanding decision to let him go

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Yep. Utterly ridiculous

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I’m going to stick up for Myler here. I’m not saying he wasn’t awful, he was. But he looked totally lacking in confidence. He’s had some good games for us, he’s better than the player that turned out last night.

With a proper 9 starting (Lunt), hopefully the forwards will be able to set more of a platform for the halves and back line. The kicks on the last should also improve.

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