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| All i can recall seeing on these forums regards teams luck in the draw of late is people stating the fact that Wigan have had an easy run of it from right through last years campaign,including the final, and this one so far(and yes,under William eve's WBSLR rules Cas at home is easy.). Not their fault as thats how these random things go sometimes, but a fair observation nonetheless.
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| Quote: William Eve "Whinge, Whine, Moan... Unlucky Leeds, Jammy Wigan... etc.
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Aye, all true.
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| Quote: William Eve "Whinge, Whine, Moan... Unlucky Leeds, Jammy Wigan... etc.
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Any of those facts I posted incorrect?
Any use of the word bad luck/unlucky?
If posting stats on past draws is whining and bitching then what do you call your posts?
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| Quote: "@PeteSmithYEP
This is an interesting assertion by Peter Smith of the YEP last month.
On first glance, it implies that Leeds have been unfortunate in only having faced a lower division team just the once in their last 16 CC ties. However, it was impossible for them to draw lower division opposition in 7 out of their last 16 CC games for the simple reason there were no lower division teams left in the competition! In 4 other instances, the odds on facing lower division opposition were only ever marginal ranging from a 13%-28% range of possibility.
Since drawing Blackpool at home in the 5th Round in 2010...
1. QF 2010 - Drew Wigan(H) - 28% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
2. SF 2010 - Drew St Helens - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
3. CCF 2010 - Warrington - 0% chance of facing lower division opposition.
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4. CC4 2011 - Drew Crusaders(H) - 58% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
5. CC5 2011 - Drew Harlequins(H) - 13% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
6. QF 2011 - Drew Hull(A) - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
7. SF 2011 - Drew Castleford - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
8. CCF 2011 - Warrington - 0% chance of facing lower division opposition.
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9. CC4 2012 - Drew Wakefield(H) - 58% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
10. CC5 2012 - Drew Salford(A) - 47% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
11. QF 2012 - Drew Leigh(A) - 14% chance of drawing lower division opposition (THEY DID!).
12. SF 2012 - Drew Wigan - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
13. CCF 2012 - Warrington - 0% chance of facing lower division opposition.
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14. CC4 2013 - Drew Castleford(H) - 58% chance of facing lower division opposition.
15. CC5 2013 - Drew Huddersfield(A) - 27% chance of facing lower division opposition.
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16. CC4 2014 - Drew Wakefield(A) - 58% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
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CC5 2014 - Drew St Helens(H) - 47% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
QF 2014 - Drew Leigh(H) - 28% chance of drawing lower division opposition (THEY DID!).
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| Quote: Wheels "Oh.'"
Indeed.
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| 1. the percentage my interest in this thread has dropped = 86.2
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| Quote: tvoc "Who just happen to be the exact three teams that have beaten Leeds at Headingley in the Challenge Cup during the SL Era within William's excellent piece of research, which should put this unlucky in the cup theory to bed but you can bet that it won't.'"
A steady run of 10 successive away draws for Leeds in the CC would even the "luck" side of things up, though I'd expect many to be apoplectic and up in arms after a run of say 3 or 4 in succession.
Lucky Wigan drawn at home 43% of the time during the SL era compared to Leeds piddling 60% of the time.
Pffft.
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| Quote: Tony Soprano "1. the percentage my interest in this thread has dropped 86.2'"
That's what Neymar cost Barcelona last year in Euromillions.
Waste of money if you ask me.
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| Quote: William Eve "That's what Neymar cost Barcelona last year in Euromillions.
Waste of money if you ask me.'"
The lottery?....... they won Neymar in the lottery
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| Quote: William Eve "That's what Neymar cost Barcelona last year in Euromillions.
Waste of money if you ask me.'"
And indeed it won't have escaped your notice that -
Punctuality on the railways reached 86.2% during November 2013.
The moving annual average is now at 90.5% -
...which gives me a slightly better chance of getting to Headingley on time on Friday.
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| Quote: My Cherry Amour "And indeed it won't have escaped your notice that -
Punctuality on the railways reached 86.2% during November 2013.
The moving annual average is now at 90.5% -
...which gives me a slightly better chance of getting to Headingley on time on Friday.'"
British Rail had a more impressive punctuality record than that.
And their fares were a lot more reasonable.
Could you please excuse me as I'm about to register a whinge about Leeds poor fortune in CC draws. I've just been informed that the likelihood of Leeds drawing SL opposition in the CC round after next is pretty much nailed on AGAIN! It's so unfair.
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| Quote: William Eve "That's what Neymar cost Barcelona last year in Euromillions.
Waste of money if you ask me.'"
Your knowledge of football as we saw the other day isnt upto much.
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| People like a moan. It's human nature to moan about random events beyond our control and if I corrected my wife everytime she decided to do something similar I would have been found as a bloody corpse many years ago.
On the other hand random events beyond our control (and our primitive attempt to make sense of them) would seem to be the basis that all religions are founded on, so maybe some accurate stats aren't such a bad thing.
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| Quote: William Eve "This is an interesting assertion by Peter Smith of the YEP last month.
On first glance, it implies that Leeds have been unfortunate in only having faced a lower division team just the once in their last 16 CC ties. However, it was impossible for them to draw lower division opposition in 7 out of their last 16 CC games for the simple reason there were no lower division teams left in the competition! In 4 other instances, the odds on facing lower division opposition were only ever marginal ranging from a 13%-28% range of possibility.
Since drawing Blackpool at home in the 5th Round in 2010...
1. QF 2010 - Drew Wigan(H) - 28% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
2. SF 2010 - Drew St Helens - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
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4. CC4 2011 - Drew Crusaders(H) - 58% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
5. CC5 2011 - Drew Harlequins(H) - 13% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
6. QF 2011 - Drew Hull(A) - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
7. SF 2011 - Drew Castleford - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
8. CCF 2011 - Warrington - 0% chance of facing lower division opposition.
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9. CC4 2012 - Drew Wakefield(H) - 58% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
10. CC5 2012 - Drew Salford(A) - 47% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
11. QF 2012 - Drew Leigh(A) - 14% chance of drawing lower division opposition (THEY DID!).
12. SF 2012 - Drew Wigan - 0% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
13. CCF 2012 - Warrington - 0% chance of facing lower division opposition.
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14. CC4 2013 - Drew Castleford(H) - 58% chance of facing lower division opposition.
15. CC5 2013 - Drew Huddersfield(A) - 27% chance of facing lower division opposition.
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16. CC4 2014 - Drew Wakefield(A) - 58% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
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CC5 2014 - Drew St Helens(H) - 47% chance of drawing lower division opposition.
QF 2014 - Drew Leigh(H) - 28% chance of drawing lower division opposition (THEY DID!).'"
Strong life.
Strong eveything.
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