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| Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "
1. Buderus has to start
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100% agree
after his display last week i expected him to start last night
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| Quote: The Magic Wand "Cant we just face facts that the side are totally shat?'"
erm, dont you remember what we won last year?
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| Quote: Lawrie L "erm, dont you remember what we won last year?'"
Living in the past is a real top quality Leeds supporter trait and you seem to fulfill it well, I have said it before and I will say it again, the Coach and his psychofant staff are clueless, totally and utterly clueless.
The team again has been allowed to go backwards due to not having any long term plan, the lack of replacements for Toopi, Scruton and Ellis show gross incompetence, the perseverance with youngsters ala Watkins when clearly not ready is damaging the kid.
And then we have the reserve side? I have seen them twice this season and they look absolutely clueless but hey having the tactical genius that is Wille Poching is really the way forward.
You see that may be the crux of the problem, Leeds are doing it on the cheap and even insulting Leeds supporters intelligence by increasing price for a substandard product.
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| Quote: The Magic Wand "Living in the past is a real top quality Leeds supporter trait and you seem to fulfill it well, I have said it before and I will say it again, the Coach and his psychofant staff are clueless, totally and utterly clueless.
The team again has been allowed to go backwards due to not having any long term plan, the lack of replacements for Toopi, Scruton and Ellis show gross incompetence, the perseverance with youngsters ala Watkins when clearly not ready is damaging the kid.
And then we have the reserve side? I have seen them twice this season and they look absolutely clueless but hey having the tactical genius that is Wille Poching is really the way forward.
You see that may be the crux of the problem, Leeds are doing it on the cheap and even insulting Leeds supporters intelligence by increasing price for a substandard product.'"
if you dont like it, jog on, NO ONE is telling you to support them
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| Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "Graham you will never get Richie to give you a straight answer - when his arguement is defeated - often very easy to do - he will squirm a bit and change the debate if you follow any of his arguements the one he originally starts with is completely different to the one he ends with.
You have to put him on the spot then he has nowhere to go and he will stop posting on that thread simply really.
As I have said before he reminds me of my kids when they are trying to argue - it is childish
It is obvious to everyone that the squad this year is not as strong as last year - Richie arguement is that replacing Ellis/Scruton/Toopi with a younger player doesn't weaken the squad because other players will improve to fill the gap. '"
Funny, coming from you. All I did was ask a couple of questions of Tad that he was entirely unwilling to answer. The argument from me never changed - I copied and pasted the same questions, so how could it?
All I did was point out that Tad's suggestion that a couple of players hadn't been replaced was a ridiculous idea.
At no point did I ever claim that their replacements were as good or better, or comment on the strength of the squad.
If Tad had been a bit calmer, he would have been able to read that.
The argumnets we would have got onto if Tad had been able to answer would have been:
Is it right to replace leavers with new signings or should we develop players?
Is having more players the answer to the problems? The point there, clearly, is that it isn't as if Salford and Harlequins are better talented than our squad.
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| Quote: The Magic Wand "Living in the past is a real top quality Leeds supporter trait and you seem to fulfill it well, I have said it before and I will say it again, the Coach and his psychofant staff are clueless, totally and utterly clueless.
The team again has been allowed to go backwards due to not having any long term plan, the lack of replacements for Toopi, Scruton and Ellis show gross incompetence, the perseverance with youngsters ala Watkins when clearly not ready is damaging the kid.
And then we have the reserve side? I have seen them twice this season and they look absolutely clueless but hey having the tactical genius that is Wille Poching is really the way forward.
You see that may be the crux of the problem, Leeds are doing it on the cheap and even insulting Leeds supporters intelligence by increasing price for a substandard product.'"
Correctamundo, leeds win things and GH gets comfy rather than build on it.
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| Quote: Lawrie L "if you dont like it, jog on, NO ONE is telling you to support them'"
You aren't the brightest on here are you Loz?
I will always support them, I always have but as you so intelligently put, that doesn't give me the right to an opinion.
Fair enough.
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| Quote: mps "Correctamundo, leeds win things and GH gets comfy rather than build on it.'"
why build on something which has proven track record?
He made a signing which beyond his control didnt happen
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| Quote: Lawrie L "why build on something which has proven track record?
He made a signing which beyond his control didnt happen'"
Brilliant Loz, stand still, thats the spirit!!
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| Quote: Richie "
All I did was point out that Tad's suggestion that a couple of players hadn't been replaced was a ridiculous idea.
At no point did I ever claim that their replacements were as good or better, or comment on the strength of the squad.
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In fairness it was obvious that Tad meant "not replaced" as in the way you describe it - not replaced with equal or better quality. I actually didn't get what you were attempting last night, I don't think anyone would be daft enough to suggest that we physically don't have the same number of human beings in the squad as we had last year.
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| Eastwood was a replacement for ellis, thats a step sideways, should have also added to the pack, still no centre, winger on wrong wing etc.
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| Quote: Richie "Funny, coming from you. All I did was ask a couple of questions of Tad that he was entirely unwilling to answer. The argument from me never changed - I copied and pasted the same questions, so how could it?
All I did was point out that Tad's suggestion that a couple of players hadn't been replaced was a ridiculous idea.
At no point did I ever claim that their replacements were as good or better, or comment on the strength of the squad.
If Tad had been a bit calmer, he would have been able to read that.
The argumnets we would have got onto if Tad had been able to answer would have been
The point is Richie he also asked you some question which given you did not answer - not unlike the points I made above - obviously had you on the back foot - it is obvious if you have a bigger squad you can rest and rotate why did we do so well in 2004 - Smith hardly fielded the same team 2 weeks running - it is great to develop players if they have the ability to be developed if they don't you either replace with the appropriate quality or as in Leeds' case you go backwards simple really - this seem a concept that is pretty lost on you!!!
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| Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "it is obvious if you have a bigger squad you can rest and rotate why did we do so well in 2004 - Smith hardly fielded the same team 2 weeks running - '"
The first time Smith did it in 2004 was from the FE to the GF where not only did he select the same starting 13 for the first time at Leeds he also stuck with the same 17. There again McClennan hasn't used the same 17 either in 2009 to this point. He did have the same starting 13 V Catalans and St Helens in the cup though.
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| Quote: The Magic Wand "
I will always support them'"
No you wont. You'll go back to supporting Halifax when the trophies dry up.
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| Quote: Kifaru "No you wont. You'll go back to supporting Halifax when the trophies dry up.'"
Hi Danny!!
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