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| We're close to full strength and in a must win game just aren't good enough. Even if we stay up we're nothing more than a mid-table squad.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "We're close to full strength and in a must win game just aren't good enough. Even if we stay up we're nothing more than a mid-table squad.'"
I still think a few real high quality additions in key positions would transform us.
Our back row looks pretty strong next year - especially if Ward can get and stay fit, and if we stop having to play back rowers in the halves or at hooker due to another signing or two there.
Our back line also looks OK next year (if we stay up of course). Newman, Walker and Handley all have improvement in them. Handley gets stick but he’s been pretty good at times - certainly not our biggest problem.
We clearly still have some problems around half back and still front row for me.
We’re not all that far away IMO; but the issues that remain are sticky. I suspect we might have to wait another couple of seasons to really work this out, and for our top young talent to amount to something in first grade.
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| We lack structure in our attack weve no moves and no spread plays with dummy runners. That was fine when we had Maggsy and Burrow who could break a game open or an Ali Lau who could attract 3 men to him and still offload but we dont have any of that at all now and were still trying to play the same way.
We should be looking to put both centres into space but we dont really seem to ever have a plan as to how to do that.
As people have said Hurrell's defence is beyond belief, flying in to sort an issue that doesn't exist and leaving Handley outside him with no hope at all. Absolutely unbelievable. Surely they work on this thru the week but it happens every 5 minutes so who knows. I think that he and the team defends better with Ferres inside him but I know that's not a popular opinion but it is the truth.
Weve started the last 4 halves weve played shockingly and were not in a position to do that.
Lots for Agar and the team to work on. Really disappointing and not good enough.
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FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS.
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| we keep signing new players and we carry on losing games
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| Because weve a poor head coach. Our attack is woeful. Hes steadied the ship a bit has agar no doubt but that squad should be doing better than joint bottom
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| Hurrells a problem for me, said it all season, for all his highlight real stuff, he just makes too many basic errors with the ball in hand and too many bad reads in defence. The ammount of times he knocks on when trying to play the ball really is unbelievable, The odd game where he cuts these errors out, he's quality and often our best player, but he dosnt seem capable of cutting them out for long. Really torn on him because i love his attitude and gamebreaking ability when he cuts the mistakes out and in his defence, we dont use him right.
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| Was impressed with Leeds yesterday, you did not look like a side who lose more than they win.
Did look like we’re going to blow you away after 20 mins, but credit to Leeds once you found your long lost mojo. After that it was a great contest of Rugby League.
The Handley intercept was like a 12 point try because we were going in in that corner had his gamble not paid off.
That appeared to give you a real lift and knock us back in equal measure in one foul swoop. So it was great to see us show a mental strength to get back on top in the arm wrestle enough to get the winning try and put together a desperate defence to keep you out as the final seconds ticked away.
Never realised just how spent both sides were at the end. You don’t usually see so many bodies collapse at the hooter.
It was a great contest and we found something when we had to.
It was ferocious and non stop out there and I hope it will hold us in good stead for next weeks semi final battle.
A tough game and I thought we deserved the win.
Leeds are where you are because you’ve been pretty crap all season, but if you could find some consistency at yesterday’s level you are nowhere near relegation fodder.
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| Thanks mate nice to hear and good luck in the semi. Hope saints lose the final after resting so many yesterday
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| As much as I hate what we do to ourselves, we just need to back our team at the minute. Agar is going anywhere but that is a huge problem we need a coach to inspire, get the best out of them and realise that they are lucky to have such a job. The ref made a lot of mistakes yesterday, for both sides but quite crucial ones for us, we can’t blame him. We made a lot of errors and some bad reads and let’s not forget, Hull played well and wanted this win, Redford hates losing against Leeds. People slagging of players like Hurrell, he has made some bad calls yes but it was never going to be quick fix. We just need to get through this season, stay up obviously and then go to town. Personally on this break now, I wouldn’t let them have time off, only maybe a long weekend. They would in digging out at training getting the basics right.
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| Quote: sharky64 "As much as I hate what we do to ourselves, we just need to back our team at the minute. Agar is going anywhere but that is a huge problem we need a coach to inspire, get the best out of them and realise that they are lucky to have such a job. The ref made a lot of mistakes yesterday, for both sides but quite crucial ones for us, we can’t blame him. We made a lot of errors and some bad reads and let’s not forget, Hull played well and wanted this win, Redford hates losing against Leeds. People slagging of players like Hurrell, he has made some bad calls yes but it was never going to be quick fix. We just need to get through this season, stay up obviously and then go to town. Personally on this break now, I wouldn’t let them have time off, only maybe a long weekend. They would in digging out at training getting the basics right.'"
Konrad was a mega thorn in our side yesterday, all action devastation in attack, yes he makes the odd fek up, but who doesn’t, outstanding entertainment, Leeds relegated, no chance.
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| To be fair to hurrell Hull's first try was scored through a limp-lettuce tackle attempt inside him whilst he was marking up. That would have made him look inside the rest of the game.
The worst try we let in was through Newman's awful grab and miss. Dreadful technique and nothing to do with age - if he'd bent his back that would not have been scored.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "To be fair to hurrell Hull's first try was scored through a limp-lettuce tackle attempt inside him whilst he was marking up. That would have made him look inside the rest of the game.
The worst try we let in was through Newman's awful grab and miss. Dreadful technique and nothing to do with age - if he'd bent his back that would not have been scored.'"
To be fair to Newman he learned and looked a lot more solid after that and even smashed the same guy (I think it was the same guy) later in that half.
RE Hurrell I'm getting the sense he's going to be the new scapegoat target around here - I've seen it creeping in.
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| The problem is its error after error. The whole team us just too slack too often and we're running out of games for people to sort themselves out.
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| This is what I mean about mental weakness, they’re just not concentrating for long enough to be effective. We seem to switch off regularly, resulting in simple errors, and that then gets compounded when we get frustrated and give penalties away, leading to more defence, more errors and getting gassed.
We must stop turning the ball over so cheaply, and that’s about concentrating more. If we don’t then we could easily be in the mix on the final weekend when we play Warrington...
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| We'r second in the league in errors made and second in the league in penaltys conceded, backs up what we'r seeing on the field, pretty unintelligent team with a poor mindset....Concentration, Focus, composure all lacking.
The rest of our stats are actually pretty impressive for a team in our position.
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