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Quote: ArthurClues "Really? Are you watching any Rugby at present? You keep banging on about the coach being the most important role at the club as if it's some fundamental truth. I couldn't disagree more. The most important people are the ones who take the field and actually play the game, always. Coaches aren't wizards. Our current playing staff (certainly todays) just doesn't measure up. That's far and away the biggest problem we have, and hopefully we'll take some big strides in that direction in the coming weeks. If we get some real quality and Smith can't get results he'll be judged accordingly. Until then patience is required.'"
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Great idea. let's sign world class players and get wetherby bulldogs coach as the coach doesn't matter.
and let's judge smith on a full season. this season and his abject pre season.

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This is how far we are behind.
50-0
A bang average Goon side has just walloped us into next week.

Completely unacceptable but will be passed off as a fluke.
We have truly and completely phoned it in.a terrifyingly e capitulation.

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Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "This is how far we are behind.
50-0
A bang average Goon side has just walloped us into next week.

Completely unacceptable but will be passed off as a fluke.
We have truly and completely phoned it in.a terrifyingly poop capitulation.'"


Bang average? They’re joint top

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but its not a fluke. its happened time after time. pre season was treated as a joke and its told during the season.
tes, there are mitigating circumstances at times but it's been shambolic. embaressing and

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Quote: leedsbarmyarmy "Bang average? They’re joint top'"
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true.
wakey and cas wernt though

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Agree don't take it out on the players you support through thick and thin. I don't think we lack effort as have been in games all season but lost most of them!
We have no leaders in the team and any recruitment needs to address this. We need a top class player who is also a leader in one of the spine positions. I don't care which but that should be what we are paying marquee for whether it is a half a prop or a hooker. Cam Smith long term has the potential but we need a Buderus / Peacock level signing that can walk in and claim immediate respect.

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Quote: tad rhino "true.
wakey and cas wernt though'"


And I’m not saying they are but neither of those beat us 50-0

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Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "This is how far we are behind.
50-0
A bang average Goon side has just walloped us into next week.

Completely unacceptable but will be passed off as a fluke.
We have truly and completely phoned it in.a terrifyingly poop capitulation.'"


They’re not bang average at all.

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Quote: tad rhino "true.
wakey and cas wernt though'"


Bit Hull got walloped by Cas last night and as you've said, they’ve taken steps forward icon_wink.gif

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Back to my original question.
Does anyone have the 21 man squad for last years semifinal and GF and is able to compare it to our strongest 21 man squad this season?
I`m interested to see how it compares.

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Quote: chapylad "Back to my original question.
Does anyone have the 21 man squad for last years semifinal and GF and is able to compare it to our strongest 21 man squad this season?
I`m interested to see how it compares.'"


You could Google it?

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Quote: tad rhino "Great idea. let's sign world class players and get wetherby bulldogs coach as the coach doesn't matter.
and let's judge smith on a full season. this season and his abject pre season.'"

World class players? We don't have the money. I never said coaches don't matter, I just believe players matter a whole lot more. What about having the loyalty and the patience to stick with what we we were clearly told was a long term project when Smith was appointed. The easy alternative is to sack him, but then what, or who? Do you have any ideas?

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Quote: chapylad "Back to my original question.
Does anyone have the 21 man squad for last years semifinal and GF and is able to compare it to our strongest 21 man squad this season?
I`m interested to see how it compares.'"

Where are you going with this?

We got well beaten in the GF really.

This year’s team has beaten all the top sides and we’ve had a couple of really gutsy performances.

Those of you that have knives out for RS will use today as per of that you’re right, fair enough. In the vast majority of games we have been close. The standard of the whole league isn’t what it used to be but I still think RS can take us up the ladder if given support and resources.

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Quote: chapylad "Back to my original question.
Does anyone have the 21 man squad for last years semifinal and GF and is able to compare it to our strongest 21 man squad this season?
I`m interested to see how it compares.'"


Funnily enough I watched last years playoff game against Wigan last night!

Briscoe and Tindall were on the wings

I’d forgotten Martin was banned for hardly anything! So Hardaker was kicking the goals.

We were outstanding that night, Bentley and OConnervthe standouts.

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Quote: ArthurClues "World class players? We don't have the money. I never said coaches don't matter, I just believe players matter a whole lot more. What about having the loyalty and the patience to stick with what we we were clearly told was a long term project when Smith was appointed. The easy alternative is to sack him, but then what, or who? Do you have any ideas?'"

Smith is a strategist and I do think he’s been brought in to bottom out the restructure. Yes, it should all have been done by now and the handover from the Goldens was a catastrophe but we are where we are.

Thought experiment: put me as coach of Brisbane Broncos and I’ll beat the pants of the world’s #1 coach taking charge of Lock Lane. Even given a year or two to work with those players. Yes coaches can bind and improve players but you have to be without shouting distance for that to come into play.

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