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| Quote: G1 "Watch it again without staring into Danny's eyes. He did.'"
What the hell you are watching god only knows. But does not surprise me bearing in mind the player in question.
Buderus has both arms wrapped around the player at all times. At no stage does his arms or hands go between the players legs.
I suggest you watch it again. I did the same thing after your comment, and can see clearly that you are wrong.
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| If the Buderus ban is overturned on appeal, it'll be tantamount to sending out a green light message to all players that spear tackles are ok.
Let's hope the RFL judiciary apply due diligence by dismissing this ridiculous appeal.
Protection of players from dangerous tackles ought to be paramount.
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "If the Buderus ban is overturned on appeal, it'll be tantamount to sending out a green light message to all players that spear tackles are ok.
Let's hope the RFL judiciary apply due diligence by dismissing this ridiculous appeal.
Protection of players from dangerous tackles ought to be paramount.'"
Only when it appears against a Leeds player that rule doesn't apply
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "If the Buderus ban is overturned on appeal, it'll be tantamount to sending out a green light message to all players that spear tackles are ok.
Let's hope the RFL judiciary apply due diligence by dismissing this ridiculous appeal.
Protection of players from dangerous tackles ought to be paramount.'"
Glad I am not the only one with more moral fortitude than the RFL.
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: Gotcha "What the hell you are watching god only knows. But does not surprise me bearing in mind the player in question.
Buderus has both arms wrapped around the player at all times. At no stage does his arms or hands go between the players legs.
I suggest you watch it again. I did the same thing after your comment, and can see clearly that you are wrong.'"
I have it on Sky+ so will have to wait till I get home, unless you have a discreet linky.
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| Quote: G1 "I have it on Sky+ so will have to wait till I get home, unless you have a discreet linky.'"
You just need to go to the super league site and watch the highlights. I put it up on full screen and kept pausing and playing. At no stage whatsoever does Buderus put his hands or arms between the players legs. He keeps the same hold at all times, which is both arms wrapped around the player.
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "If the Buderus ban is overturned on appeal, it'll be tantamount to sending out a green light message to all players that spear tackles are ok.
Let's hope the RFL judiciary apply due diligence by dismissing this ridiculous appeal.
Protection of players from dangerous tackles ought to be paramount.'"
They've already done that by not punishing the Manly player for doing worse to Buderus or failing to punish the Wigan player that did it to Eastwood!
The fact remains that the governing body and many of it's components are'nt fit for purpose.
Oh and i have no problem with the Buderus ban as long as there's consistency and transparency within the disciplinary system!
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: Gotcha "You just need to go to the super league site and watch the highlights. I put it up on full screen and kept pausing and playing. At no stage whatsoever does Buderus put his hands or arms between the players legs. He keeps the same hold at all times, which is both arms wrapped around the player.'"
Watch the third replay of the incident, 4.23 in to the highlight footage. Where is Buderus' hand? Anyone know how to do a screen grab?
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| I thought he'd get one match and he got one match. I don't think there is any conspiracy. I would be surprised if Danny himself was not thinking the same.
One of the problems with the judiciary is that examples of inconsistancy are used to have bans overturned on appeal rather than to have bans imposed where they should be.
All I hope is that it's not Danny's last game of the season.
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| Quote: rhinoms "
Oh and i have no problem with the Buderus ban as long as there's consistency and transparency within the disciplinary system!'"
agree mate
I think the words that came out of my mouth when Buderus did that tackle was "you ******* idiot"
however as I have put elsewhere the pathetic punishments given to the Wigan players for incidents in the game should have also had bans and fines
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| he's appealing against the ban
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| Quote: G1 "Watch the third replay of the incident, 4.23 in to the highlight footage. Where is Buderus' hand? Anyone know how to do a screen grab?'"
That is not what you said above.
You said in lifting the player he had his hands between his legs. That clearly is not what happened.
Until the player hits the floor Buderus does not release his wrap of the player, at that point of release, when down on the floor his hand does go between the sprawling legs as he tries to get up. If that is what you are determining as hands between the legs then every tackle in the game better be looked at.
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| Quote: Gotcha "That is not what you said above.
You said in lifting the player he had his hands between his legs. That clearly is not what happened.
Until the player hits the floor Buderus does not release his wrap of the player, at that point of release, when down on the floor his hand does go between the sprawling legs as he tries to get up. If that is what you are determining as hands between the legs then every tackle in the game better be looked at.'"
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| Quote: G1 ""
There's a screen grab on it's way, btw, before you go into fog knitting mode.
Only back track here is you. You stated that he had his hands between the legs in lifting the player and in the tackle. The hands only go there once the tackle is completed.
Are you saying that every tackle where the hands go between the legs is a banning?
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| Quote: G1 "
he didn't mean to do it? How can you say that?
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So you think Buderus was set out to do a dangerous tackle? I dont believe any spear tackle is conducted on purpose. Its all about technique. You will see Buderus pick up and dump players (legally) on there backs a couple of times per game - its his tackling style. Unfortunately when you do it as much as he does sooner or later your going to get the technique slightly wrong and cause a little danger. Unfortunately this is what happened on Sunday.
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