It means you are the cream of the crap

there is no such thing as the qualifiers shield.

I love it that were getting grief about lack of quality from Wakey and Fax fans. Enjoy your 15 minutes of mediocrity lads.

Except you don't get anything for finishing 'top' of the qualifiers though. Other than retaining SL status.

So we still wona win it

Still - 11 of the 17 who played in the Grand Final 2017 played on Sunday

In bold

Walker; Briscoe, Watkins, Sutcliffe, Hall; Moon, McGuire; Singleton, Parcell, Garbutt, Jones-Buchanan, Ward, Cuthbertson.
Burrow, Ablett, Ferres, Mullally

The Bev Risman Trophy for beating Leigh two years ago

This is only played between Leigh & Leeds. We may be playing for it in 2019 if we meet again !

Based on each of the M8 tables since they started, we need to win 5 games to avoid the MOG. That really doesn't give much room for stuffing up - we certainly can't afford to lose any game that we 'should' win.

The worry for me is this time there is no Watkins, he was way too good for the middle 8's last time and carved it up.

yes he did. you would hope the likes of moon should pull his finger out of his arriss, Because he should be able to stroll through championship defenses at will, i would hope Bricsoe and hall can as well.

Yep
I said it earlier, we need to win 5 to make sure, but if results go against us, 3 teams could finish on 8 points, then we have a problem

Points Club Games
14 Hull KR Win all 7
12 Salford Lost to HKR (A)
8 Leeds Lost to Salford (H). HKR (H), Widnes (A)
8 Toronto Lost to HKR (H), Leeds (A), Salford (A)
8 Widnes Lost to HKR (A), Toronto (A), Salford (A)
4 Halifax Won London (A), Toulouse (A)
2 London Won Toulouse (H)
0 Toulouse Lost all 7

If we lose to all three of those SL fodder teams in the M8's, 2 of them at home, then we deserve to go down and the club would need to take its medicine and start again from scratch down in the Championship because that would be exactly where this group of players should be if that happened. It won't though so don't worry

4 wins could be enough to qualify this year as I think this will be one of the most competitive competitions yet.

Only Leeds and Hull KR will qualify with ease IMO

Problem is all these players will have a clause in their contract that gives them a release if that happened.

Thats already out of the window!

Championship sides on the hunt.

Widnes and London looked pretty ordinary tonight. We might stand half a chance against either.

Both would have beaten Leeds tonight by 10 points.

Giants trolls from the 'glory days' sticking the boot in, that's when you know things have hit rock bottom.

The way we have played the in recent weeks, London away next week will be a tough task.

We will score 40+ points on Saturday. And at London we will do the same.

Not everyone likes the present play off system . Personally I am in favour, especially when viewing last nights widnes London game. Wonderful to see those London supporters celebrating a superb victory. I am not a fan of artificial pitches but at least they should be green. The colour of the widnes pitch looks like something that’s gone wrong in the washing machine.

Did you expect any better - his predictions for top/middle 8 were so far out

they were changing every week

My punt at how the Middle 8's will finish up:

Hull KR
Salford
Leeds
Toronto
Widnes
London
Tolouse
Halifax

I expect that we will be safe in 3rd with a week or two spare.