For next year this has to start with halfback. We can get by with duffers in most positions, but we absolutely need a quality playmaker. I'd like to see McLelland given a go alongside them, because we've seen the best of Sutcliffe and Myler and they are nowhere near good enough over long periods when asked to run the show, which we'd be one injury away from.

Its a shame (in lots of ways!) that we don't have more breathing space, because it makes it hard for Agar to drop some of our Academy forwards into the squad every week. That delays their development and makes it harder for the club to make decisions re retention. But some of those lads must be wondering what they have to do to get into the first team given how dire so many of our forwards are.

I am going to take this back. Must have missed a few things. Sutcliffe stats are just awful, assuming they are correct. Four missed tackles again, along with Watkins shocking 6 missed. Sutcliffe costing two penalties. I was giving him credit yesterday, even though I knew he was woeful with the ball, his main job. Whoever gave him MOM needs their head shaking.

Parcell, Merrin, and Smith stats very impressive, and most of the work through them. Oledzki, clearly his worst game of year and looked all out of sorts. Singletons stats also on the embarrassing side for a starter.

Where are the stats from the game? They're not on the SL website.

On Rhinos website. Usually they post them from super league.

https://www.therhinos.co.uk/report/leed ... roncos-22/

https://www.therhinos.co.uk/report/leed ... roncos-22/

You cant go off stats unless you know which tackles are missed. If they are 1 on 1s fair enough but how do we know the ones missed arent from running 15 yards to cover someone else's missed tackle and never really having a chance to make the tackle but almost getting there. It still goes down as a missed tackle on your stats despite it actually being a great piece of effort.

And that is why relegation should be scrapped. It makes clubs panic

Licencing needs to be brought in again. Each team has to have an academy, have a ground that meets the minimum requirements and be able to spend the full cap. If you don't spend the full cap, you shouldn't be in the top league.

Which club is panicking? Have I missed something???

Not Leeds which is fair enough but it does happen and has over the years many times with poor overseas players being brought in at the expense of homegrown.

What does peter smith in the YEP know about the game, always getting his captions wrong and now he's got singleton as a 7 with Ava and Donaldson on a 6?

Singleton was a 3 or 4 in my eyes at best

Those ratings all round are ridiculous. Clearly never watched the match.

A missed tackle is only classed when falling off a tackle. That is fact. This has been mentioned before about leaving gaps and not recorded.

Not talking about leaving gaps I'm talking about covering 15 yards diving full length getting hands on the player but not completing. That's a great effort but still a missed tackle.

There are missed tackles and missed tackles but they all go down as 1 on the sheet which is why unless you know which tackles are missed you cant go off the stats sheet to judge.

Trust your eyes and judgement. You said yesterday you thought Sutty did ok (no more no less) and I think you was absolutly correct. In typical Liam Sutcliffe style he just does enough to get by. Hes not as bad as people make out, he has ability but gives the impression he cant really be bothered and does what he needs to do to get picked next game. The lad needs a rocket up his backside.in truth.