Although your opinions sometimes act as a useful counterbalance to some of the more negative opinions on here, you may have been better off on this occasion maintaining your silence and keeping what's left of your integrity in tact, as you managed so successfully yesterday.

Even those fans who are the most uncritical, who live, breath and worship the Rhinos... even they are mightily peed off with yesterday's performance rather than the result itself. These are fans who were magnificent last season, who turned up week in, week out, despite the shower of smelly brown stuff being served up and sprayed all over until Segeyaro arrived and cleaned the place up a bit.

The reaction by many to that performance yesterday indicates that the fanbase aren't going to be so forgiving or supportive of the same stinky stuff (or worse) being served up in 2017. They didn't like what they saw... a window pointing directly at 2017... and they certainly weren't expecting the smell to be worse than last season either.

Coming from a guy who constantly criticises the fan base for turning up and calling them sheep etc. then your faux concern is laughable.

You ridicule people for turning up during the season then offer fake sympathy for a pre season friendly. Sorry William I see through your fake concern for others as it's clearly BS just because those people are quite heavy on slating the club right now. The club start doing well again and your opionion on fans will alter again.

...and then he put a team of kids out.

How many of the players that turned out - can't say played - will be integral to next season - I would say the vast majority of the starting line up only Jordan-Roberts and Aston will not feature. Of the 13 it is likely at least 8 will be in the starting line up come round 1 in the subs Mullally, Walters and possibly Smith will be part of the squad. Not quite a team of kids eh?

If this is an indication of the depth of the squad then it suggests all is not well - but then a number on here have been suggesting that for a while.

Theres a difference between appearing for the team and being integral to the season.

I would say I would expect Watkins, Moon, Hall, McGuire, Parcell, Ward and JJB to all feature in the starting 13, with Ferres and Burrow on the bench. I make that 9 of the 17. Of the subs from yesterday i expect only Mullaley will feature regularly.

Yes they were crap, but it was half a team


Some have been suggesting it for about 7 years

Yes, Leeds were absolutely terrible yesterday... Clueless in attack. I don't think Sutcliffe and Lilley cut the mustard for me.

I haven't seen the game so can't comment.Was there any new blood from either club that made a mark!

we will finish 5th/6th at best and will be lucky to avoid middle 8's in reality, anyone thinking better than that now is living in a fantasy world imo. the spine simply isn't good enough and the pack is too placid for me. There is no strength in depth to boot. could be another long season ahead.

Was very impressed with the following

Jordan Crowther - young lad from Wakey academy. Started at LF playing good minutes and looking strong with a few good touches and drives.

Batchelor - England academy player. - again see above. These are two very exciting young forwards who have big futures.

These were the pick of the young lads wakey fielded.

I liked the look of golding who was busy.

Be good to see fifita, hubby, miller, mason brown, Gibson added to the team we had out but was mostly pleased for our pack with a couple of young lads in with a handful of appearances in Sl getting the better of players like garbut, Delaney, singleton etc.

It is only a friendly but there was a massive lack of direction in the Leeds team. Was shocked at how clueless they were tbh.

Thanks for the input TH..

It was a lot worse than what you imagine.
I have never been so bored at a rugby match as I was in the second half, including all the other boxing day fixtures.

In 80 mins of RL Leeds only did 3 bits of skill worth watching (covering less than 1% of the game), Sutcliffe put in a boss kick, Golding and Lilly did some nice quick hands and made a half break, and Ormondroyd showed some strength to score.
These weren't really highlights, the Leeds team of 2015 would do maybe 50 bits of equal skill.

I went to watch it because I (like many of the nation) like watching some sport on boxing day, but if the Rhinos coach and players don't care then next year me and my family will try get tickets for the united game.

Always going to be difficult when the opposition play a near full strength side.

It's shame we didn't create more from distance but we got over their line plenty of times which was encouraging and showed we were making opportunities at least.

Overall hard to judge really with 9 first team players absent. It's virtually a different team.

True but not true, you see if Leeds want to be genuine contenders there will be times in a season when they will have nine out but be expected to win.

Also not every one of those missing players was a pivot player vital to the team.

Fact is friendly or not if it weren't for Trinity being a bit rusty themselves you were looking at a fifty point humiliation on your own middings - not acceptable under any circumstances against a mid table local rival!

BMs comments were pathetic and he's clearly out of his depth now he can no longer depend on the team other better coaches created. Personally I hope you stick with him.