McDermott to Sydney for Trent Robinson

Not putting it out there isn't really working out too well for you either is it by the look of the responses.

And that Brierley never happened justified peoples doubts.

Why not mention it? If Gotcha or Frosties had said that they didn't know the names but had been told 2 players want to leave etc then we'd still be in exactly the same position. Except somebody would have challenged that on the basis that they didn't know the names and so were making it up.

If no-one ever mentioned anything they've heard on here it'd be rather dull.

I'm more than happy to say who the player I was told about is after things are sorted and who told me the information says its ok to.
I don't care whether it's wrong or not, though it's highly unlikely to be wrong. I was merely backing up Gotcha's post that there's 2 players "unsettled" for want of a better word.

I don't know anything about a swap deal so and I'm intrigued by Frosties claim that it'll be big news. We'll just have to wait and see.

Before any bitchfest begins, although appears some might already be making assumptions, this has not been said. It would be fair to say there is unrest, but the reason for release from contract has not been said what you have just stated.

My own posts were very clear, and seems also backed up by Him. I stated two players had asked to be released from their contract in addition to Baldwinson. I did not give names, or why, for a very specific reason. The club were still talking with the players as far as I was aware, well one of them anyway. There is nothing wrong in stating a release from contract had been requested, but to me there is to state why at this stage, and I don't see why there has to be a reason given.

The issue on a swap is pure speculation, and I stated that as third hand. But I don't think the swap either way will have a bearing in the end on contract release.

The same reason as Lauitiiti moved.

Hurrell doesn't appear to get along with coach McFadden - what has Hurrell played 1st grade this year at the Warriors, about an hour isn't it. Can't see a change of Mc's working for either player.

Any Leeds players who are currently involved in early release negotiations are not fit for the purpose IMO and should not be selected to play.

I liked it better when Willie talau was joining us and big Les was to be announced on boxing day. Now it's all I know something amazing but if I told you its likely you would be so shocked you would vomit up your own pelvis. It's so unbelievable that I was told in the strictest of confidence where as you would possibly out a capuchin monkey dressed as kaiser Willhelm if you knew

Bring back proper rumours. I'm starting one now. We are signing Hayne and it's to be announced at half time against Wigan at the magic weekend. I've seen a mate who is organising a sponsored car for him.

If you read what I posted I did not say there has to be a reason given. I said I would be interested to learn the reasons why three players are asking for a release from their contracts at the same time. Now in Baldwinson's case it is understandable if he feels his way is blocked by other players or his face doesn't fit and he doesn't see much chance of breaking into the team. It would be equally understandable if it were for serious health or family reasons otherwise I would say there has to be some kind of dispute between player and club that would make a player want a release.

In passing-on the story of the two additional players implies they have to be senior ones to have any chance of being described as massively shocking to the whole of SL and this tit-bit also rather implies criticism of the coach/club which if not any fault of coach or club should be stated.

I implied nothing of the sort, hence why I said do not assume. And just to be clear, I have also neither said a shock to anything. Although, unless the full details are released, which I very much doubt they would be, then I am sure other teams supporters will very surprised.

The reaction to immediately defend the club always brings out unnecessary comments from some, and hence bitchiness and arguments. The club have been at fault with a lot of things, but this situation is not of their doing, and they are trying to do the right thing. Take it as that.

Without naming names, could those of you "in the know" via first, second or third party information please confirm if the players wanting away from the club are still being selected to play for the club?

And are they currently in the 1-13?

I've also heard from a reliable source we're signing Hayne on a 1 and a half year deal. Swap deal with Wigan as well - Zak for Tomkins who is going to play in the halves. Hearing Watkins for Clark could be on the cards too.

Seems like there's a reluctance to answer my question.

Never mind, here's my opinion...

Any Leeds player who is wanting away from the club to pursue his career elsewhere? That's fine. Thanks for all your efforts in the past. But not this season. See you later. You do not play for Leeds again.

If any of those players above are still being selected, then those responsible for those selections and anyone else applying pressure on those responsible for those selections also need to consider their futures elsewhere.