Stats can be very misleading, but coaches and fans seem to base more and more on them. I based my original post on how I viewed the match, and the stats back up that Kylie made great yards per carry, at a time when we were well under the pump. JP and Cuthbertson seemed to struggle going forward, and missed more tackles than would be normally acceptable. Having said that, no two tackles are the same and when forwards get exposed in broken space missed tackles are likely to happen, more so than when a strong defensive line is being maintained. Kylie officially missed a high percentage of tackles, but I don't remember him just slipping off any with poor technique or through lazy play. Defensively we were a shambles in the first half, and the stats don't tell you when a player has been so bad he didn't even get near enough to tackle, that's why I don't go big on the stats.

I'd say the 64! missed tackles by HKR was a pretty telling stat. We're unlikely to enjoy that kind of largesse in many more games.

I did I thought you and Mr Murdock did a sterling job mate although you did a bit disgruntled when Mags scored and more down beat when the Rhinos finally sealed it are you a closet Robin?
Fwiw Ward was mentioned plenty of times as was Mags ,Watkins ,Briscoe and JP along with glowing reports for Campese and Kelly!

Indeed. Widnes next, and we saw their fighting qualities last week. Plus, they'll have had an 8 day turn around, to our 5. We don't want to hit the last quarter of the game behind.

True, every single player in their 17 missed at least 1 tackle or more. Think the game was a perfect example of how the season could go for HKR, involved in a lot of shootouts with very few low scoring contests. I think when some of the other bigger teams go there HKR will managed to put some points past them too, just a question of whether their defence can make it count.....I reckon they'll get it right one time and claim the scalp of one of Saints, Wigan or Wire at their ground this year.

The tackle attempt by the KR full back for Briscoe's first try was the worst I've seen from a fullback in that position in a long time. Some of the defence from both teams for tries was very poor.

Think Aaron Murphy for Hudds vs Hull tops it for rubbish FB play for his effort for Shaul's 2nd try. I've seen ships turn and move quicker, made Paul Wellens look like Usain Bolt at FB.

You say the stats back up exactly what you say from viewing the match?

Your distinctly average Mags who you reckon didn't have a good game was top try scorer, top tackle buster, top carrier, top for clean breaks equal top for attacking kicks and 2nd best for try assists. Nice back up stats!

Also nice to see you quoting lots of "per carry" stats

Prepare to be amazed he will be in the top 5 - a complete waste of salary cap spend.

I see a massive side step to this from Herr Gutenberg!!

I doubt it - the lad's from Cas - still hunting Mammoth there.

Whilst Campese pulled the strings for Hull KR in attack..Stevie Ward won't have an easier opponent to run through all year. Windmill.

Not really but couldn't be bothered. Like just mentioned, McGuire's stats look good but the player he's previously downplayed is dismissed as not as good as it sounds and one he's been praising all pre-season is "excellent". I'd have thought as a McGuire fan that you wouldn't like that. And it's not even a case of me saying Ward was poor or rubbish, he's probably did have a good game....but nothing about the performance from the team on Sunday screamed "excellent" as a usable word. His use of stats is selective too. Nearly half of Ward's metres came from one break in which he fluffed the chance to pass at the end to Briscoe who could've scored. Fortunately he was awarded a penalty from overzealous HKR defending but I saw Ward do the same thing vs Hunslet where he made the break and just had to slip the ball inside but decided to take on the FB and got tackled into touch.....hopefully this doesn't become a reoccurring theme.

So you think a player who GH will have known when he signed him faced an uphill task to dislodge any of JJB, Ablett or Delaney from the backrow will have been offered more money than Sinfield, Peacock, McGuire, Burrow, JJB, Ablett, Hall, Watkins, Briscoe (who apparently wasn't cheap) to name but a few.