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| SgtWilko is spot on in his observations about Bullseye's Post.
Perhaps the Bradford chappie is simply having a last SuperLeague whinge before both he, and his underwhelming team disappear down the pan at the end of the season....
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| Quote: Old Feller "I'm sure that Kirke did exactly what his coach asked him to do ie sub JP for the 10 or so minutes he was off the field.
From recollection one tackle he did do was a one on one on Clarke who otherwise could have made one of his trademark darts from dummy half & who knows what that could have led to?'"
Kirke will be able to look back on moments like that with pride. He must feel so fulfilled.
Seriously though. What is McDermott's rationale behind having Kirke in the side?
I suspect it’s something to do with Peacock’s desire to play long minutes. McDermott knows that he needs someone who doesn’t mind playing 10mins here or there to allow Peacock a breather. Kirke’s obviously ok with being a “bit part” player who while in the 17 doesn’t really contribute anything to the side of any note. I suspect not many players would want this role given that it must make him feel a bit of a fraud when he’s collecting all these winners medals.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "I have a problem with a bulls fan slagging a players contribution from another club (a champion player at a champion club) after the performances they have turned in this season and many more since 2003.'"
Quote: sgtwilko "SgtWilko is spot on in his observations about Bullseye's Post.
Perhaps the Bradford chappie is simply having a last SuperLeague whinge before both he, and his underwhelming team disappear down the pan at the end of the season....'"
Such a pair of sensitive souls
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| Quote: Bullseye "Kirke will be able to look back on moments like that with pride. He must feel so fulfilled.
Seriously though. What is McDermott's rationale behind having Kirke in the side?
I suspect it’s something to do with Peacock’s desire to play long minutes. McDermott knows that he needs someone who doesn’t mind playing 10mins here or there to allow Peacock a breather. Kirke’s obviously ok with being a “bit part” player who while in the 17 doesn’t really contribute anything to the side of any note. I suspect not many players would want this role given that it must make him feel a bit of a fraud when he’s collecting all these winners medals.'"
Some of that is total BS. Kirke has had some cracking games for Leeds on the way to finals and in finals. I will never forget him smashing Mike Bennett in the 07' GF. I think that was literally the end of Bennett's Career. Kirke has been making solid contributions for the best part of a decade whilst 99% of SL players are on a beach.
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| Kirke put a great hit on Delaney in final
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| Quote: thebloodbath "But let's not also presume Cas can turn up in a major final. All new ground to them, let's see how they handle the occasion.'"
Was worth raising
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| To be fair to the relegated one, Kirke or any other Leeds player are not Champions, they are Final Winners.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Good to see Ian Kirke put in a stint.
2 carries for 9 metres.
Oh and 10 tackles with 1 miss.
An integral part of the Rhinos machine.'"
He didn't look to happy either when he picked up the cup
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| Quote: The Eagle "Least minutes of anyone in the squad with a shade under 12 minutes, I'd say 10 tackles, with several other assisted tackles is pretty decent, thats about 2 tackles per defensive set. 2 carries is low, but in a game where the forwards didn't carry a massive amount of ball our backs were making approximately half of the carries in a set I have no issue with a low number.
I'm sure he'd have liked more minutes, which may explain his muted appearance at the end (If so, the whilst no Matt Adamson style sulk, it could be seen as unprofessional), but with Peacock doing a big stint, and Bailey looking quite strong, Kirke's place in the sqaud would show he'd get small minutes'"
Also, I only saw 1 carry, but I was quite hung over when watching the replay on Sunday morning
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| Another thought is that Kirke probably knows he isn't exactly the most loved player from the fans so wasn't hardly going to get the strongest reaction if he did go for it whilst lifting the cup.
Also had he gone for it he'd probably be getting knocked more on here from guys saying he didn't do anything to warrant celebrating like that.
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| Also in regards on the subs, I've not really heard anyone mention him but I thought Aiton's work for the 2nd Hall try was very good.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Another thought is that Kirke probably knows he isn't exactly the most loved player from the fans so wasn't hardly going to get the strongest reaction if he did go for it whilst lifting the cup.
Also had he gone for it he'd probably be getting knocked more on here from guys saying he didn't do anything to warrant celebrating like that.'"
Same thing happened yesterday - the 17 who played were being called out in order - I think the 4 subs potentially first - but even before it had started Kirke came skulking on to the pitch with his head down and no waves or anything.
I'm not a massive fan of his but had he held the trophy properly on Saturday I'd have cheered. Must be coming to something when even during a trophy presentation you are aware of the criticism and don't want to be seen being too involved in celebrating, in case you antagonise the ire of the detractors further.
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| Wish people would get of Kirkes back. Whilst he is no world beater he is clearly a valued member of our squad and has been for nearly 10 years. Do peaple forget he came from the lower divisions and has made the best of the cards he has been dealt and took his chance, and has a sackful of medals from a full time career as a pro RL player. Also he does loads of community stuff for the club, living the dream, Well done to the lad.
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| Spot on R.T ,
Kirke has done everything he has been asked of by the last 3 coaches and is well thought of by the players he has played with at Leeds , one or two snipers on here followed by their flock of sheep like to think they know more than the successful coaches we have had . As for the opinion of any Bulls fan they are not worthy of a response .
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| I actually felt sorry for him when he looked so subdued on holding the cup
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