Actually agree with you both - but can't really blame McD for this issue. Sinfield is banned and we simply do not have another organiser within the club. For all their promise, Stevie Ward or Sutcliffe are not the long term answer to Leeds 'game management' issues. Burrow and McGuire have been terrific for this team with their individual skills, and have been the perfect pairing to partner Sinfield over the years as the 'spine' of this team.

However, we're now desperately in need of 2 new halfs, and I just don't see them coming from within.

We may still do the double this year - I'd not put anything past this group, but time is ticking, and I just feel we need some new blood and thinking to get the best out of the likes of Sutliffe, Ward, Watkins, Hardacre, Moon etc in the coming years.

So I'm guessing none of your are going to congratulate the bulls on outplaying you ??

Re-The H/B issue I know its still only U19's but Jordan Lilley is turning into a very good organising 7 he has the kicking game ,Good passing range and is Leading the team around the pitch.
Far too many players didn't "turn up" last night but at the same time I think the Coach also got it wrong with too many changes and a very lightweight bench.
Hopefully we can turn it around next week the team are certainly capable but fail and we have very few games to recover before the play offs start.

It's been mentioned you were the better team what else do you want more bottles to throw at the players?

Pehraps they would like another fund raising effort?.

Well done. Shame you couldn't do it when it mattered

What options did the coach have - what player could he played that could have controlled the game the way Sinfield does?

In my opinion its catch 22 you can control the game all you like but without the strike players it will be to no avail but without the control you cannot create the opportunities. My point is Sinfield would never have achieved the status he has without the players around him

Danny Brough is the best half in super league but he will never have the success that Sinfield has because the players around him are not of the same ability

No. They were all too. Just marginally better than we were. Well done

Beating Wigan and then backing up by beating Leeds at Headingley. A team who can do that will surely be a force in the play offs.

Play BJB at fullback and play Hardaker in the halves, that would have been a better choice than Burrow and next season's Championship player of the season. Time to go Danny - thanks for the memories.

Are you for real - when was the last time Hardaker showed he was a half that could control a game? He struggles with passing at the best of times!!

Yep, he'd pose more danger for a defensive line than slow mo Danny

& on last night's showing Danny doesn't?

It says something when Luke Gale was by a country mile the best player on show last night.
He thoroughly deserved to be on the winning side.
Had we won last night it would have been a travesty.
I wouldn't have allowed at least 2 of our tries.

We shouldn't have had the Delaney one. That was shocking revving. You can't blow up for a penalty, signal it, then wave play on. Bit the bulls first one was a knock on.

I don't think we deserved to lose, as we had most of play and territory. What lost it was how bad we utilised that advantage.

What a load of pants. Nights like that make it best for all that I don't have a gold membership as I suspect I'd have been "politely escorted from the premises" in the Q&A after.

Although the irony being of course if it had been one of the players trying to do so, I'd have gotten away scott-free as they'd have dropped me, as they did with the ball all night.

It was like collective amnesia and none of them seemed to realise it was wet and therefore to make double-sure that they had ahold of the ball.

I appreciate when it is wet it is more likely the ball does pop out and get dropped more. However I don't appreciate it happening so often and no response to it coming from the players. It was like every time it happened was the first, such was the lack of a response the next time.

The u-7 and u-9 teams at half-time seemed to adapt better to the conditions. Poor, poor, poor.

Then I wake up this morning to find a text message from Sir Kev hoping to see me at Langtree Park next week! Just as well I don't sleep wearing a blue and amber top, as I'd have dropped my phone, I can tell you!