From the end of last season to the start of this your messageboard was in relative meltdown. Only you took SL seriously, everyone else messed about until the play-offs, you couldn't keep your class players, you were recruiting mediocre players, your half backs were crap, your pack inexperienced & lightweight, your coach was arrogant & ignorant, you were totally dismayed with your club & RL, you weren't going to bother with season tickets for the first time in 159 years. It started again when you lost your lead in the table. Obviously I exclude you from any of those views.

Given the lack of quality teams outside the top 4 or 5 in SL you'd certainly hope so.

Leeds have had their own version of walkover draws themselves enabling them to get to Wembley but the hoodoo remains in place when it comes to winning it - not something Wigan suffer from. Wasn't the early exit from the Challenge Cup going to improve Leeds' chances this season for the Play-Offs? Don't really see much benefit going to accrue in July and August 2014 just because we've ended our season on a low point eight days earlier than what has become pretty much the norm.

What has this got to do with my comment about Leeds being on the decline?

When going for the title Wigan came either first or second. This season 2013 we did come fourth, but you forgot to add CC winners and in the GF at the end.

It completely baffles me why anyone on here should waste their time responding to a numpty from another forum.
Just ignore him & he'll go away.

Don't be so immature and insulting. This is a place to discuss rugby and that's exactly what I'm doing. Grow up and talk rugby not soft personal insults.

Absolutely nothing. I presume, however, you do not read the content of your own messages.

True, but it is a Wigan fan and the subject matter has become a Wigan and Leeds richard-measuring contest which will always appeal to those who remain psychologically damaged by the Wigan glory years immediately preceding the SL era.

Cheap cheap insult. Stick to rugby. PS Wigan being in the final and winning the CC is about as up-to-date as you can get.

Absolutely nothing. Ok, well done for a post with no relevance, by your own admission.

Can some one please close this thread and remove this tO##ser, typical trash posted from a Weeeeegan supporter, I doubt he will be back bleating on Saturday night . Truly boring boring boring

At least the last time you hicks came out with statements like that was after the 2010 GF you were goint to win it again and again and again and again?ah well we haven't. From Hickville trolls for awhile,3 years.Cheated any good salary caps lately?
Even if you win on Saturday Leeds will still be the only club to win SL and not cheated the salary cap.
Last son of Wigan? What happened the others?

Come on William