I disagree that McShane or Clarkson for example had as much to prove as Smith. They are still relative tyros - Smith's played in three Grand Finals and almost 150 games all up, but hasn't had a look in once BJB got back in the side. As someone else said, if there is one position on the field where you can look good despite your team being walloped, its full back.

I have kept hold of the hope that Smith can turn things around, but I do think it may be time to give someone else a shot.

Original argument.

When Saints got shafted by Bradford the other week they looked shocking apart from Wellans who was outstanding.

Yup. He put everything into it. His commitment to the cause cannot be questioned.

When Wellens celebrated his try he scored against Leeds you could see what it meant to him. It was met by me with applause. It was the only thing I could do to distract myself from that curled up, ugly, goblin face.

Give with one hand.......

That'll be the grass burns from Old Traffords pitch.

Painful, but very good

I posted a comment earlier in this thread regarding the Saints disaster saying that perhaps Moore should be allowed more game time in place of the out of form JP. Although I still believe JP to be not at his best I rather owe him an apology as in the game he was our best tackler overall (30) made the most metres of the forwards (124m) and also most carries of the forwards (1icon_cool.gif. So without his best form and zimmer frame he still was our hardest working forward.

SSTTNPGA

Smith hasn't demonstrated the ability to create anything from nothing since his return from RU - I would BJB has demonstrated the ability to create through clever kicking etc.