I'm not sure you are correct saying it would have been awarded without the cameras being there. I watched it at the game ( not seen the replay yet) but the touch judge stood back at the time which tells us that he had some doubt and wanted to speak to the ref before the try was given. Alibert then went to the video ref. So even if the cameras hadn't been there Alibert might have listened to the touch judge and ruled it out anyway.

If he had connected before the ball hit the ground, its play on.

Unfortunately Phil Clarke made sure it hit the deck first and then its classed as a knock on.

Theres no 2 ways about it mate

Whilst true this is not unique.

Maybe Ganson played it a million times to make sure that all of the fans, even the most stupid and short sighted could see it was a knock on.

Seriously, can you point me to where in the rules it says that a grubber has to be hit on the volley?

I'm 99% sure there's no valid basis for such an interpretation in the rules.

The ball certainly hit the ground a fraction before the ball was kicked there is no doubt about that. Watching the replay i hoped it wouldn't be given and honestly wasn't sure which way the call would go. For an objective and un-biased opinion listen to what McRae said in the commentry. He called it a knock on, by the narrowest of margins though.

You really turned up on friday and were unlucky not to come away with the points. Good luck for the rest of the season.

You were the better team on Friday no doubt about that, but, as you lot will know, its a sign of champion side to play below par and win which is what we have done countless times this season.

very true, and it's nice to have genuine fans with genuine opinions on here from wigan rather than the gloating nobs

Just watching Super League Show and neither the obviosuly dubbed on commentary or any of the guests in the studio mentioned the forward pass for Richards' try.

I don't know why I bother watching.

The Laws of the Game (as found on the RFL website) don't specifically define what is and isn't a "drop kick".

Exactlly we seem to be inventing new rules...also the laws on knock-ons/forward passes are

So what part of that did McGuire infringe?

He didn't deliberately knock or pass forward (he dropped the ball from his hands to his foot) and if he had it'd be a penalty...it wasn't.

He didn't "knock on accidentally" so the clause in 10.2 about the ball kicking the ball before it hit the floor is not relevant.

He did knock on accidentally.

He intended to kick the ball. It hit the floor before his foot. Hence an accidental knock on.

That's a circular argument though - the rules are fairly clear...after an accidental knock on the player can kick it before it hits the floor. So how can the knock on become accidental retrospectively?

Also I refer back to the definition of a knock on [i"means to knock the ball towards the opponents’ dead ball line with hand or arm, while playing at the ball"[/i (from the glossary of the RL Laws)

I'm genuinely curious as to the basis in the Laws for Gansons decision. As far as I understand the wording of the laws the only options available should have been a penalty for a "deliberate" knock on (which would be ludicrous, it's not like McGuire gained any advantage from the ball hitting the floor a fraction of a second before his foot hit it) or play on

Correct call for me. He intended to drop the ball, but I don't believe he intended to let it hit the ground before it hit his foot. I can see both arguments, but I think having referred it to the video ref it had to be no try.

Also, the pass for the last Wigan try looked forward on the replays, but I've seen worse (like ours at home to Saints) and at that speed I have no real complaints about that either. Some are given, some are not. That's life.

No try, correct decision, let's move on.