Graham is, and Ellis was, integral to the teams success. Burgess isn't.

Why are people so adamant to try and run the clubs affairs for them!? Just support the team and leave them to get on with what they think is best. If it turns out to be a mistake, or you strongly disagree with something they've done, then just don't buy a ticket next year. Simple.

I think people are forgetting that we're talking about LUKE Burgess here. Yes, his form has been OK, and he's been one of the best of a very bad lot, but it's LUKE BURGESS. If we're ever in a WCC against the Bunnies and Luke Burgess is the difference between us winning or losing I'll eat my hat. He won't even be bloody playing never mind making any difference!

Excellent post.

The bigger picture is the message this shambles is sending out far and wide, not just to players in the NRL, but also possible targets within super-league, current rhinos players including the academy lads.

The difference is the team isn't successful is it - it is getting spanked by the better sides, this is a side in free fall.

If we take your view we might as well not have a forum - you might want to kneel, bow and grovel everytime GH walks by, I don't - simples!!

It's not that I want to kneel, bow & grovel. It's that I want to spend my money on things that I derive pleasure from. It's a difficult concept to grasp I know but you do know that supporting a team is optional don't you? I don't know about you but I don't really want to spend well over £1000 per year just to constantly moan and criticise something.

What you describe as "kneeling, bowing and grovelling" I describe as supporting the decisions of a club that I'm CHOOSING TO PAY to support. If you want to work hard all week to buy tickets for games, then spend all weekend angry about it, who's the mug?

It's nice to win, of course, but win or lose I'm determined to enjoy supporting Leeds. The day I don't enjoy it, and the day that it is making me as angry as it seems to make some of you, is the day I'll stop paying my hard earned cash and spending my valuable time doing it.

Life is too short mate, either get on board and enjoy the ride, or don't buy a ticket.