For me Ablett has been another disappointment. The early season promise has gone and he's gone backwards in the last 3 games.

Our kicking last night was woeful, and apart from some good play from Buderus, it was another totally flat performance.

Cant we just face facts that the side are totally shat?

i feel a bit sorry for mcguire and burrow.last week, for maybe the only time this season, the pack dominated there opponents. this gave those two room to move and space to play in.
oh for a farrell and fleary. no nonsense players who did there job brilliantly well.

despite the obvious, 2nd row, centre etc, when has a good left wing, become a right wing, was talking 2 an old left winger last night, he agreed he would have struggled on the opposite flank.

I'd actually play:

Webb
Hall
Smith (if not Gibson)
Senior
Donald
Sinfield
Burrow
Leulaui
Buderus
Peacock
JJB
Kirke
Diskin

McGuire
Lauitiiti
Bailey
Burgess

Webb, Smith, VACANCY, Senior, Donald, Mcguire, Burrow, Leuleui, Buderus, VACANCY, Peacock, VACANCY, Sinfield.

Subs: Watkins, Diskin, JJB, Lauitiiti,

Taxi Rank: Ablett, Kirke, burgess

The forward pack went missing leaving wingers and centres to do their job for a very large part of the game. I lost count of how many times Peacock and Bailey stood watching Donald, Hall, Burrow and McGuire take the ball up. There was absolutly no second phase of attack and the kicking game was pathetic to say the least. Not once were their fullback and winger split by a kick. The one out tacticks were clearly not working but nothing was done to change it. Both coach and players should be embarrased.

100% agree

after his display last week i expected him to start last night

erm, dont you remember what we won last year?

Living in the past is a real top quality Leeds supporter trait and you seem to fulfill it well, I have said it before and I will say it again, the Coach and his psychofant staff are clueless, totally and utterly clueless.

The team again has been allowed to go backwards due to not having any long term plan, the lack of replacements for Toopi, Scruton and Ellis show gross incompetence, the perseverance with youngsters ala Watkins when clearly not ready is damaging the kid.

And then we have the reserve side? I have seen them twice this season and they look absolutely clueless but hey having the tactical genius that is Wille Poching is really the way forward.

You see that may be the crux of the problem, Leeds are doing it on the cheap and even insulting Leeds supporters intelligence by increasing price for a substandard product.

if you dont like it, jog on, NO ONE is telling you to support them

Funny, coming from you. All I did was ask a couple of questions of Tad that he was entirely unwilling to answer. The argument from me never changed - I copied and pasted the same questions, so how could it?

All I did was point out that Tad's suggestion that a couple of players hadn't been replaced was a ridiculous idea.
At no point did I ever claim that their replacements were as good or better, or comment on the strength of the squad.
If Tad had been a bit calmer, he would have been able to read that.

The argumnets we would have got onto if Tad had been able to answer would have been:
Is it right to replace leavers with new signings or should we develop players?
Is having more players the answer to the problems? The point there, clearly, is that it isn't as if Salford and Harlequins are better talented than our squad.

Correctamundo, leeds win things and GH gets comfy rather than build on it.

You aren't the brightest on here are you Loz?

I will always support them, I always have but as you so intelligently put, that doesn't give me the right to an opinion.

Fair enough.