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Quote: G1 "That's the fella. As far as I know he's started two at centre. Cas at home last year (left) and Wire away the year before. Was Wire away in the left centre?'"


Well obviously otherwise I'd have noted otherwise. Stattos find it impossible to deceive but don't mind concealing evidence when it suits. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: G1 "let's get something straight.

We won the Grand Final last season.

We did so with Carl Ablett playing centre for many games and large parts of others.

In your opinion a decision within the Grand final was pivotal, in your opinion. There's nothing to say a similar decision couldn't be made (if needed) if we reached this year's Grand Final.

So, to summarise, last year we did win the GF with Carl Ablett at centre.

As you were.'"


Watching the match again, and actually taking note of the rugby, you will actually see that I am spon on.

We won a GF where Ablett was switched to second row after 15 minutes of been slightly over run. That is what actually happend, regardless of you wanting to use different arguments.

Does anybody care about that? for me absolutely not.

And like I said, if you read my last point of that quote, I was actually stating the same as you.

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Quote: DISA "Just to get something straight, which appears to have completely gone over the heads of some people.

We did not win a GF with Ablett in the centres. We won a GF by getting away from doing that. We were overrun for the first 15 minutes of the GF with plenty coming down Abletts channell. We took the decision, correctly, to swap him and Ellis round. This completely changed the game, then we won a GF.

Would we have won with Ablett staying there? who knows, and who cares. But you can not lose sight of the fact that it was not working and a change was made.

It was also complained about continually on this very board last season when Ablett was used as the centre.

That said, I actually agree that if Ablett is used there this season, I dont see too much of an issue considering the lack of quality he would be facing in the marjoity of games.'"


I thought that for most of last season Ablett and Ellis swapped mid game, but in the grand final the key change was the Ablett and Senior swapped sides, rather than Ablett and Ellis swapping. ATEOTD, we won the grand final with a very similar looking backline, and have strengthened certain areas through signings and promotions.

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Quote: DISA "Watching the match again, and actually taking note of the rugby, you will actually see that I am spon on.
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How conescending. For a man wit hsuch questionable observational powers you seem very confident in your opinion. Good for you.

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We won a GF where Ablett was switched to second row after 15 minutes of been slightly over run. That is what actually happend, regardless of you wanting to use different arguments.
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His position was switched, yes. Over-run, debatable and opinion so if you're going to use phrases like "That is what actually happened" you should stick to issues of fact and not opinion. Like, where was he actually selected to start the game? Where was he actually selected for many of the games in the lead up to that final?

I know you like to fog knit but are you really taking exception to the statement that we won a GF with Ablett at centre. Because he was at centre and we did win it.

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Before anyone goes crazy here, I'd have preferred Leeds to sign a right centre rather than an ageing world class hooker and (failing that) I'd have preferred Leeds to sign a right centre rather than an interchange prop.

You see it all comes down to improving the squad in areas that you know are weak. And not just because we know it but because the whole game knows it.

I presume Leeds tried to find a centre in the off season and failed and so we go with what we've got. A virtually untried in the position Lee Smith was given the shirt, Ashley Gibson had injuries to overcome and in Kallum Watkins we have a genuine prospect but at 17 can't be expected to do the job week in week out at this level.

Senior's unavailability for half the games so far this season just adds to the existing problem.

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Quote: G1 "How conescending. For a man wit hsuch questionable observational powers you seem very confident in your opinion. Good for you.

His position was switched, yes. Over-run, debatable and opinion so if you're going to use phrases like "That is what actually happened" you should stick to issues of fact and not opinion. Like, where was he actually selected to start the game? Where was he actually selected for many of the games in the lead up to that final?

I know you like to fog knit but are you really taking exception to the statement that we won a GF with Ablett at centre. Because he was at centre and we did win it.

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icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif Gareth, Gareth, Gareth. That is a bit rich seriously coming from you. You been the most condescending arrogant person on these boards.

You get so tied up in arguments and defensive you fail to see that the argument you were making I actually agree with you on.

Ablett did indeed play a part from centre to get us to a final. I never doubted that. I doubted that "we won a GF with Ablett at centre". We started with Ablett at centre, I dont dispute that. But for the first 15 minutes of that game we were over run. That is not opinion its clear and fecking simply to anyone watching. A change was made with Ellis switching to centre, and from there the game changed. Thats not been opinionated or condescending, its a fact of the way the game went.

Like I further stated, would we have won without the change? who cares, we won and thats all that matter. I further stated that should Ablett need to go to centre again, who cares, because the quality of the oppossition this year in that position is hardly going to be too big a problem.

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Quote: G1 "Who?'"


maybe Adam Mcdougall for a year,


Quote: G1 "Hold up. Senior is our best centre. He's probably still the best English centre in the league (which says more about our ability to produce decent outside backs than it does about Senior's fading qualities).

Let me get this straight. You're suggesting playing Watkins and replacing Senior?'"


im suggesting resting senior for some games, which will mean there is space for a player like watkins to get games,

Quote: G1 "Who? And if you're happy with playing Watkins why not look for Senior's replacement (to play along side Watkins) for next year when we can sign a player we actually want rather than whoever is available mid season?'"


so why not get someone for a year or at the most two, we have plenty of cap space and even more when Senior goes,

Whens Soliola back? why not bring him over anyway?[/code]

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The main advantage we have over most of our rivals is that our young players are, overall, better than theirs, plus we have more that are close to the required standard. Signing an experienced right centre might lead to success in a few more games than might otherwise happen - although who knows - but personally I'm more interested in seeing what we can achieve by sticking with what we've got.

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Quote: King Monkey "I love it when people get their knickers in a twist and start whinging about not being allowed an opinion.

Its a board where its ok to challenge peoples opinions. I hope thats ok for some of the more sensitive souls.'"


I thought incidences of personal abuse were automatic bans these days?

See ya DISA. icon_lol.gif

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